When you ask the jungler for a gank

alcatrazEscapee·11/23/2014, 6:34:30 PM·5 votes·840 views

Please, first ask yourself: "If our jungler comes, can we get anything from it? Or will it be that 3-0 fiora double kill again." It is very hard - nigh on impossible to gank some lanes. But if you think we can get something, then ask yourself this: "Will it help me win lane/snowball/provide help for the team?"

The jungler gets to chose how he wants to spend his time. So before you rage and blame your lost lane for no ganks, please consider that the jungler is still doing what he thinks is best. If he thinks that camping bot and taking early dragons is better, then at least give him respect in his own decisions.

6 Comments

Steelflame11/23/2014, 9:01:20 PM3 votes

The big problem I have is when a lane is literally right on the edge of me winning, and I am just the smallest bit behind the enemy, and my jungle NEVER once shows up. I've had games where if our jungler had landed a single ability on the enemy in 1 of the 8 fights we had in lane, I would have won that fight onward. When a lane is being repeatedly decided by 50 hp, you start to wish your jungler might just look at the enemy wrong and win the fights. I don't expect camping. But I do expect you to apply pressure on the map, not just afk farm all day while the enemy gets 3 dragons and 5 towers.

Arakk0111/23/2014, 7:27:04 PM2 votes

You are a saint. If more people thought like you, maybe I could jungle- I'm just not the summoner for tactical decisions, and I constantly try to gank everywhere I'm asked. This usually results in an underfed werewolf proving irrelevant lategame.

Dr Endeavor11/24/2014, 10:03:03 PM2 votes

I played mostly support and jungle in ranked because I got tired of the results of other people doing it

Crede77711/23/2014, 9:07:13 PM1 votes

It's not all about tangible benefits though.

Jungle pressure is a very real thing and effects the opponent's cs and ability to push. Far too often I play with premades who only gank for their friends. My lane opponent gets very aggressive and just pushes without any concern and isn't punished for it...

CoCo BoEy11/23/2014, 9:45:00 PM1 votes

Jungles should know what they are doing especially in ranked. When I have to ping all over the map where the jungle should go then that jungle needs to stay out of ranked for awhile.

All the time I'll be in a lane getting ganked or camped by enemy jungle and my jungle is rather (A) camping one lane or (B) staying in jungle the whole time and saying "Hey, it's your fault you didn't ping"

Like no.... seriously know your job. You have a role like everyone else, your role is to gank and help lanes and you should be watching lanes for gank opportunites. It's not someone in lanes responsibility to tell you how to do your job... they are busy farming cs and fighting in their lane.

It almost makes me want to main jungle cause I never trust my jungle to do their job.

I agree, if you want a gank let your lane get pushed and if you are pushed then there is no point for jungle to come. However no the jungler does not get to live in jungle and do whatever he wants. He's role is to gank lanes and help push them, not sit around on his ass all game farming cs and ignoring lanes while the other teams jungle is ganking lanes left and right.. With your logic you are basically making it a 4vs5 game early on.

Also to say it's someones fault for losing their lane ? No that is a cop out for lack of responsibility. If the other teams jungle is constantly camping top to the point they pushing the lane and took the turret and our jungle is off farming cs or doing his own thing as you call it then that is jungles fault because their jungle is doing his job while our jungle is caring more about himself then the team. If you lose lane 1vs1 then yes it's on the laner but if that lane is getting 2vs1 the entire time, then it's the jungles fault for not looking at top and helping out.

At the very least the jungle should take the advantage of their jungle being top and help push bot or mid but to do nothing is just pure lazy.

Jungle players make more excuses and bs then any other laner I know of. They constantly place the blame on other people when they had the ability to help and simple chose not to and would rather argue then do their job.

Ungrateful Thug11/24/2014, 11:07:41 PM1 votes

Mid dies once and asks nicely for a gank.

"I'm going top, cuz our mid sucks."

My problem with a lot of junglers is that many of them act like prima donnas. If you aren't getting any pressure, any objectives, or zilch and your laners are struggling because they have the enemy jungler on their ass and are constantly being pressured, then yes, you are partly to blame. Whenever a jungler says its not their responsibility to help laners, and in turn aren't getting objectives of any kind, what I'm essentially hearing the jungler say is "why aren't my laners carrying me?"