I don't know 100% why I cannot climb. Please help me.

OctoBit·6/21/2016, 7:26:38 PM·4 votes·920 views

I feel like I have good game knowledge and I have decent mechanics. At least enough for Gold. I keep playing and I do well but I keep losing games. My friend that is Gold has ZERO idea as to why that is. He knows how well I play and he agrees that I should be Gold at least.

So I am here looking for help from any player Plat and above that wants to help me in more of a 1 on 1 learning environment. Not asking to be carried or play ranked with. I am looking for what I am doing wrong, what can I do better, and help me determine better decision making (which I think is where I need the most work tbh).

I watch a ton of YouTube videos that teach about league and they helped me grow a ton as a player but I am stuck climbing again.

I have hit a massive brick wall in Silver and I do not know where to go. Please help me break the wall.

13 Comments

Twtheo6/21/2016, 8:19:30 PM3 votes

The things I changed to climb were these:

Don't let toxicity bother you, whether it be ignoring someone the second they are toxic, or learning to ignore it yourself, just don't respond to it, at all. You will distract yourself, and your teammates. I have been in games where I've died a few times early, people start to be toxic, just ignore them and really focus on being safe.
Go into each game with a specific attribute to get better at. For a few weeks I would go into games focusing fully on switching my trinket when I got sightstone or hit lvl 9. It's a simple thing, but little things like that can make you better. Here are some other little things: switching trinkets at 9, focusing heavily on CS for a few games and just playing passive, autoing enemy champ when they go for last hit (pay attention to both teams minions), warding (nuff said), using potions mid fight, using items mid fight in general (locket, mikeals, randuins), and the biggest MAP AWARENESS, this is still my biggest goal, admittedly, sometimes I will focus so much on last hitting/laning that I haven't looked at the map in a minute or two, and that is devastating.
Learn the game. Now this may seem broad, so I'll narrow it down. Learn matchups, item counters, and power spikes/dips. This is one of the biggest problems I see with people who are bronze-gold. They don't understand matchups and counters and spikes/dips. While I truly believe that anyone can carry with any champ at these mmrs, it just makes sense to learn more about the game. For example, you are a vayne in lane against a caitlyn, do not try and trade, do not try and fight (unless a good 2v3) because the caitlyn severely outclasses you in the early game. Just be safe and farm. This is just one example, but there are hundreds out there. So, learn matchups and if you are in a losing matchup, just play safe, farm, and be smart. Don't try and "outplay" everyone just because you think you are better than them. Because if you were, then you wouldn't be stuck at the mmr you are at.
Learn how to rotate and gain objectives. If you see a jungler top during mid game, grab a dragon or mid/bot tower. and vice versa for bottom. If you see their top laner without teleport, call for TP bottom or dragon for an easy fight. If your lane ganks another, push minions hard into tower to deny the CS then damage tower. (you may wander after you push minions into tower if the fight looks like it could be long). Just don't do the half-ass wonder after your lane is gone, then just turn back around once your almost there. It doesn't help anyone, you didn't call MIA, just push minions in and damage tower.

TL:DR

Don't be toxic, don't talk to teammates at all in fact. If you can't handle other toxicity ignore immediately and just focus.
Game by Game, focus on one thing to get better at. Last hitting, warding, looking at map etc.
Learn the game, learn matchups, counters, power spikes/dips. They are really important.
Pay attention to junglers and ganking, and when lanes are easy to take objectives in.

Ragnar426/21/2016, 8:09:44 PM2 votes

I'm not plat.

But I will tell you, the thing that helped me get into gold was to become really focused on objectives. I got to a point where even though I would lose lane, I would play champions that didn't care if the lost in the lane phase, and still had a strong presence in the late game. (Singed, Sion, Tanky Fizz, Tanky Ekko.)

You need to learn Macro. Every time there's an opportunity to take dragon. You take it. Every opportunity to take the Top Buff be it Baron or the other, you do that. Every time you can take a tower, you prioritize that over kills. A lot of people think that you have to get kills to take towers mid and late game. Not even remotely true. If you learn that if your opponents are all in one area, the further they are away from a tower objective, the bigger the mistake is. So if it's a 5 man bot, and you're top, you push like you're giving birth.

Stuff like that will carry you far further than going 18-2-34 every game in lane.

Dehitay6/21/2016, 8:56:38 PM2 votes

I'm not actually sure what you are and are not doing, but I can list some things I see people frequently doing around silver and gold that cause losses.

If you're top or bot and a tower goes down, the laning phase is over. It doesn't matter if it was yours or their tower; laning phase is over. At this point, just push the wave till it goes the other way and head mid. Even if it was your tower that went down, trying to take their tower just makes ganking you way easier. Only try to take their tower if you know where every member of the enemy team is and it's nowhere near you, or you have the cooperation of your team to help you take it.

There are limited times when it is ok to jungle. Do no jungle if you are next to a minion wave that is pushed your way and nobody on your team is pushing it back. Do not jungle if your team is preparing for a teamfight. Do not jungle if you are not the jungler and it's still the laning phase unless your jungler specifically ok'ed or asked you to. Do jungle when it comes to taking the most logical objective available. Do jungle if every wave is pushed towards the enemy and your team is mostly back at base.

Group up as much as possible after laning phase is over. Split pushing is a valid strategy, but grouping as 5 is better the majority of the time. Split pushing is really dangerous unless the split pusher has some skill that allows him to join his team should a teamfight break out.

Also, this isn't really a mechanical thing, but abusing dynamic queue makes climbing easier. I personally prefer to play solo, but there is no doubt that premades have a significantly bigger advantage. Treat solo games like interviews. If you see anybody that carries that game on either side, suck up to them and add them after game. Then see if they'll queue with you.

GGXJ96/21/2016, 7:47:53 PM1 votes

well you are wrong you dont have decent mechanics/"good game knowledge" or you wouldnt be silver/gold/plat plain and simple. Seriously just work on the basics and stick to a few champions. Just spam 10 games in a row of annie/ori/ahri one after the other and you will learn and climb just look to improve while playing as well. Come back when you are diamond 5 then ask for advice I shall return.