FFXIV, WoW, GW2, or something else?

Niyumi·May 23, 2017·1 votes·5,058 views

So, I can't play League 24/7. I just can't. It tilts me too hard, and I start to burn out after a while. I used to play MMOs before League, but Wildstar died off, and anything else I play has issues.

WoW is just bad now, every class is 2-3 buttons and the fights are next level braindead.

FFXIV is amazing, but the combat is just so slow and simplistic that I actually fall asleep if I play it at night.

GW2 is hands down my favorite MMO gameplay, but there's just nothing to do outside of farming Fractals or mindlessly zerging in WvW.

... is there any other MMO that's fun? Are WoW, FFXIV or GW2 not as bad as they seem to be? I'm just at a loss of what to do. T_T

28 Comments

DirewoodsMay 23, 20172 votes

I personally play guild wars 2 Granted I did pay for the expantion, but when i was a f2p it was still quite a bit of content to do and play around with, the classes are interesting and fun (#necromasterrace) and the characters are generally interesting

also BATTLE KATS Rengar

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

Oh I bought the expansion too, and I did wing 1 and 2 of the raids, did a bunch of WvW, all that. But I just have nothing to do now, since no one really pugs the raids that much, and WvW is getting old.

The game has, hands down, my favorite MMO combat ever, but the lack of a trinity and the whole casual approach makes everything stupidly easy.

Also, Asura are the best, and Necros and Thieves are best classes. ^^

DirewoodsMay 24, 20171 votes

They added some more raid wings ( i cant really say much on them cause Im not raid ready yet) Living story has updated a few times and the newest one is quite interesting, also another expansion is somewhere on the horizon, ( we had a massive "leak" storm a couple weeks ago)

Also rife theif is next thief spec

NiyumiMay 24, 20171 votes

Yeah, I know they added more wings, but I just don't have much motivation to go through all the trouble of pugging, since the raids are so easy, and there's no progression either way.

I know an expansion is coming, though. Saw the leak and all that.

LauchmelderMay 23, 20171 votes

I'm quite enjoying Archeage once again, and it's getting a big patch on June 7th.

But I'm always interested in other MMOs, gonna keep a tab on this thread.

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

I never really enjoyed sandboxes, so I never picked up AA. I like having some kind of goal to work towards, and once I hit level cap, I like having gear progression and raids and all that. Does AA have all that? Or is it just a world simulator where you wander around and do boring, mundane tasks like farming and running a caravan and whatnot?

LauchmelderMay 23, 20171 votes

I will write you a longer post later today, writing it on my phone's a pain.

It has level and gear progression, but gold relies a lot on farming/ running tradepacks/fishing.

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

Does it have raiding and dungeons though? Like, real raiding, not world bosses?

LauchmelderMay 23, 20171 votes

Well what is your definition of "real raiding"?

People usually go into raids for 3 major activities: World Bosses, PvP and rifts (which grant honor through a daily quest).

There are also 2 dungeons that need a 10 man raid.

Raiding in AA can be fun, but pubraids are a mess more often than not. I was in raids for everything already, and the most fun one was the boss raids where enemy players tried to stop my guild.

Concerning the crafting aspects: Crafting will go through an overhaul in 3.5 which will remove the RNG part of it. You will be able to craft the best gear with relative ease.

If you want to do potions that's a very needed profession as well btw.

Gold income is kind of bad right now, I'm not gonna lie. The only real viable way to make gold is either investing cash into cashshop items, running hundreds of packs or selling a 10$ Item for around 800-1200 gold (depending on the server)

PisykanMay 23, 20171 votes

you could try final fantasy a realm reborn the MMO is rather good and under rated TBH.

other than that if you have a PS4, get Horizion seriously its fantastic.

if you want a challenge and have never played one before get dark souls 3,2,1 or demon souls/bloodbourne, there absolute master pieces

SEKAIMay 23, 20171 votes

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if you want a challenge and have never played one before get dark souls 3,2,1 or demon souls/bloodbourne, there absolute master pieces

To add/clarify the relevance of this in this thread, Souls series/franchise can be played as a semi-MMO due to the summoning and invasion mechanic, and aspects of the game made to use it as well as some community events such as the fight clubs. Just remember to "turn human" every time you respawn from death so the multiplayer is opened, playing as hollow is mostly singleplayer mode outside of the scripted invasion that could happen in certain in-game events (though you might run out of the resource to do this so you may get some down-time when you're farming the said resource).

Also, Dark Souls are to be played chronologically, so start with 1, then 2, then 3. The games have a story to tell, even if it's all kinda in the background but still very much important, playing it backwards as suggested by the poster will ruin it.

Demon Souls and Bloodborne are not connected to any of the other games thus can be played in time you want.

PisykanMay 23, 20171 votes

sorry i didnt actually mean play it backwards i just first suggested 3 if hes new to it as its the newest one and then thought i should mention the others in the series, and if we get into it play demon souls before dark souls :)

anyway sorry dude i didnt mean to confuse the post.

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

FFXIV = Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn. xD Was asking if it's any good at level cap, since I'm massively burning out at level 30.

I've been meaning to grab Horizon, but console games usually only last me a few days to a week or two at best until I beat them and get bored. : /

I've played Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3. Never played Bloodbourne, but I've been meaning to pick it up as well.

PisykanMay 23, 20171 votes

if you enjoyed Dark souls you should pick up Nioh, its very similar :) bloodbourne is well worth it too, much better than dark souls in my opinion.

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

I did enjoy Dark Souls, but I kind of burnt out during the third game. Never finished it.

PisykanMay 23, 20171 votes

me too i got to the dancer of the boreal valley, got spanked and though yeh screw this for a while. ahaha

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

I got to the part with the big dead wolf in the swamp, and just got bored, so I stopped playing and forgot about it. I should really finish it to see the story though.

LapisMay 23, 20171 votes

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FFXIV = Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn. xD Was asking if it's any good at level cap, since I'm massively burning out at level 30.

I've been meaning to grab Horizon, but console games usually only last me a few days to a week or two at best until I beat them and get bored. : /

I've played Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3. Never played Bloodbourne, but I've been meaning to pick it up as well.

FF14 does get better, combat-wise. The Heavensward expansion changed how a lot of classes play, so that's levels 50-60. Combat just feels incomplete until then. What class were you playing, by the way? That can also influence things, I know early dragoon for example turns a lot of people away.

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

People always say it gets better, but at the same time people in the novice network tell me that the raids are ENTIRELY scripted and predictable, and that the classes are still very simplistic and static.

I tried Monk a long, long time ago, playing Bard right now (level 31 so far).

SEKAIMay 23, 20171 votes

Yeah it would seem not many are developing MMORPGs anymore, which is understandable since the market scenery has changed.

Back in the early 2000s, everyone would be living on the WoW, RO or Everquest or something.

These days, 3 trends I'd notice that people like:

Fast - games with shorter length and faster experiences where they get their feed of thrills and leave. You know this because people thought a 30 min per game match is too long and most of the games most people play are competitive FPS.
On-and-off - wax on, wax off, no strings attached. While that doesn't mean people don't like game progression anymore, but they like it "external". Many don't like it when there is something that makes them dependent on the other guys, this is also mostly why today's MMOs are "singleplayer games where you play it with a bunch of people" atm. This is also why people drool over self-synergy/1-man-team characters like Lee Sin in team games like LoL.
Build/sandbox - many people now demand games that can allow them some sort of self expression and higher player agency. This makes it hard to develop for MMORPGs, mostly due to the aspect of budget, and trying to balance between the rules required to be a MMORPG and the freedoms required to be a sandbox.

This also doesn't help when people shift between games way too quick, given how many games are released nowadays and that people are growing increasingly less attached to their games it's only inevitable. And so investing MMORPGs become unreliable as a whole.

And so people don't develop MMORPGs now. That's sad aye.

OurLestradeMay 23, 20171 votes

I'd play WoW, but monthly subscriptions are disgraceful

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

Eh, subs usually mean the game itself is goinna be a lot better.

Zanicus MusicusMay 23, 20171 votes

I like GW2 better than WoW by a lot and there's no subs haha

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

GW2 has far, far better combat for sure, but WoW has better content and story, if you ask me.

Zanicus MusicusMay 23, 20171 votes

I love GW2, there's plenty too do. Map completelion, world bosses, running dungeons solo, guild adventures/quests

NiyumiMay 23, 20171 votes

I love GW2 as well, but there's just not a lot I can do that I actually enjoy. World bosses are kind of lame, and grinding maps is boring. I enjoy the raids, and I enjoy FOTM, but no one pugs the raids, and I don't have the AR to do actually challenging fractals. I like WvW if there's a big fight going on, but other than that it's kind of boring after a while.

GreenBoÍMay 25, 20171 votes

Well... Im about to leave League for good to Overwatch XD. OH and do you maybe know how big is Guild wars 2 player base? If its big i may actually play that too :D

NiyumiMay 25, 20171 votes

GW2 is one of the most popular MMOs right now. FFXIV and GW2 are the big ones, and then WoW (but it's losing people fast).

I wish I could just quit League for good, but no games are actually interesting for more than a day or two. League is infuriating, but it's still fun.