No constructive feedback or information provided from Riot, yet banned for 2 weeks?

Absozero·Oct 31, 2014·3 votes·738 views

I recently received a 2 week ban. I'm not sure I qualify as an "extreme case of toxicity". I'm an openly gay Atheist and often times when someone says %%%, homo, gay, etc, I tend to say something in chat, usually by self identifying as a gay man. Especially as a gay man living with HIV. Often times, people flame me more when I speak up and then report me after those games. I'm afraid that your system is wrongly blaming the victim in these instances of "mob mentality" that I often run into in league. Open your mouth, critique a word or call in game and the mob comes for you with the "report" button. Am I supposed to just play league in the closet?

I'm disappointed that this is how you are choosing to conduct your business.

8 Comments

ZielmannOct 31, 20142 votes

I have to imagine that this isn't quite the full story. Or at least that you have a biased view toward your own actions and can't see that, even if the intention was good, the manner in which you dealt with it was not. Obviously I've not played in a game with you, so I cannot know for sure.

As to "are you supposed to play league in the closet", I don't really feel like the closet even applies here. A person's sexuality is really quite irrelevant within the confines of a game of League. If you find their behavior offensive, you can mute them and then report them after the game.

At any rate, still upvoting this in hopes it gets seen and responded to by Lyte or his team (might have more success with a support ticket, though). I feel that, given the circumstances, your case might have more potential to be a mistake than any other ban inquiry thread out there.

AbsozeroOct 31, 20141 votes

While you're correct and i'm sure I wasn't always nice or careful about how I addressed each situation, I certainly did not engage in "extreme toxicity" like the email I received said was the reason I was banned. Extreme toxicity being defined as homophobic, racist comments or death threats. And after asking in my support ticket I submit, I received no further explanation other than "see Lyte's Comment on Reddit" and/or post in the forum and hope for a response.

Disappointing to say the least.

FeatherztormOct 31, 20142 votes

I opened up a thread about a similar inquiry. I asked, and this is a summed up version, "Why am I being banned for defending myself, when someone is initiating toxic chat?" And pretty much, what the majority of this community says is: "Don't defend yourself, mute them, and report."

Unfortunately, I don't mute, too, much, and I certainly don't report unless a teammate goes AFK, so I found I was SOL on that one. I can only transfer advice given to me, from me, to you. Cheers and good luck!

DolynaNov 1, 20141 votes

Extreme toxicity being defined as homophobic, racist comments or death threats.

Out of curiosity, where did you come up with that definition? Did Riot provide it?

I would consider many other things to be included as extremely toxic chat. I would assume that most other people would too.

(Disclaimer: I'm a fairly new player, and I haven't seen any chat so far in the game that I would consider toxic at all.)

AbsozeroNov 2, 20141 votes

Riot defined that in the support ticket they sent me after I got banned out of the blue.

DolynaNov 2, 20141 votes

Riot defined that in the support ticket they sent me after I got banned out of the blue.

Oh, interesting. Thanks.

AbsozeroNov 5, 20141 votes

Just got my chat logs from support after being banned for 2 weeks and it turns out I said f*ck twice and told a Sion and Yasuo that they deserved to lose for trying to 2v5 all game. Is that really "extreme toxicity"??

AbsozeroNov 5, 20141 votes

This idea of cleansing chat by banning people who get reported, not the people who are the problem, but the people who get ganged up on and reported is disgusting.

Trying to sterilize chat will not improve player behavior in game because the 2 aren't always related. Someone can say nothing and troll a ranked game and go unpunished. If all Riot wanted to do was sterilize chat, why not just remove it from the game?? What is the endgame? I'm curious to know what cleansing players like myself with do to the overall "community quality" of the game. Because I swore a few times I'm banned? Because I told 2 players that they deserved to lose for playing overly aggressive and without our team?

If Riot can give me a real justifiable reason for my ban, I'd happily accept it, but unfortunately, it's just random discrimination. I just feel like this new system, much like tribunal, is just cultivating more negativity in the game by not addressing real problems with AFKs and trolls in ranked game.