ticket dropped

puffin masta·9/1/2015, 12:57:42 AM·2 votes·1,044 views

[EDIT]

The ticket didn't get dropped, it was a (very) long weekend apparently. however, I'm leaving the thread up for the discussion about what the ticket was/is about.

And before anyone implies i over-reacted, i've had a ticket get dropped before. I'll admit it was a bit knee-jerk, but considering i have a ticket that's remained untouched for over six weeks i think I'm a bit justified.

94 Comments

Jubbinaut9/1/2015, 4:41:37 AM6 votes

Ah, welcome back.

Still convinced that you were "singled out" because you were punished in your case? I'm not sure how else it can be to explain to you that other players cannot be punished in your case.

Each player can only be punished for cases that are built specifically against them. This is expressly done to prevent double-jeopardy situations, where a player is punished twice for the same behavior. So, in no sense of the word were you "singled out."

If those players were punished, you may not have received notification. This would only mean that the game you reported them in did not trigger a case against them.

If those players were not punished, it was simply because they have not been reported enough to trigger their own cases.

My guess is, they're dropping the ticket because they've given up on explaining this to you.

Colgate Gator9/1/2015, 4:44:23 PM4 votes

They just told you that you were punished correctly so they closed the ticket, what's there left to ask?

That answer is pretty much a polite way of saying "Deal with the punishment, don't repeat the offense."

AMYS GRAVE9/1/2015, 4:32:24 AM3 votes

So your account got suspended? Post the chat logs showing their evidence. Otherwise we have no reason to believe anything other than you were just toxic toward someone and got rightfully punished.

nerak239/1/2015, 6:56:46 PM3 votes

I see then. No real way to know. OP do you understand ?

Your upset, I get it and so does everyone else. But the ticket says that 'since you have no NEW..." Nothing new, what is your actual complaint ? You can't believe by writing this someone is going to come on and tell you if they have been punished right ?

Please, do yourself a favor and forget about it ..move on in life..you can't let this bother you for so long it is Not Healthy :) Hey, GL

Barbwired Mind9/1/2015, 4:22:39 AM2 votes

I had someone today literally do that to me as well, with a BOT reply of course. It sent me the most useless information i've ever seen in my life and exactly what i told them not to do as very clearly stated in my ticket. gg riot support system is legit the most piece of shit i ever seen.

BakedLotion9/2/2015, 3:42:37 PM2 votes

The whole point of them not showing u the chat of other players in the game is to show you your chat logs, out of context, therefore, they can make people think you're toxic. Which you might be, but their proof is terrible since its usually out of context

Xonra9/2/2015, 11:52:11 PM2 votes

I'll never get tired of these "I was toxic, but...other people were toxic so it's okay right?" threads.

MilfHuntUnitXJ99/3/2015, 4:02:34 AM1 votes

Why cant you be a normal person and play a different game for once an d wait it out without crying

nerak239/3/2015, 4:13:19 AM1 votes

Creepy is insulting. are you a male or a female? do you know what creepy means? do you know what it's like to be kicked out of a fucking park becuase you're "creepy?" how old are you? how many women have called you "creepy?" because of how you look? have you ever had smoene go through your medicie cabnit and snicker about how creepy you are? fuck off. Seriously. if you're female and creepy is a go to word, you need to seriously think about how you talk to people. if you're male, you're probably to young or know what people mean whey they say creepy.

Are you saying you have had these things happen to you ? If so, that is terrible. But I didn't do that ! I said your actions were creepy. Not YOU ! I just double checked that, Never did I call you that. I said your actions were 'kind of' you know what.

What you are missing here is you are blowing this out of proportion. When you cool off go back threw this thread and take a look at what I have said to you. I Have not been rude, I am Not making fun of you or your situation. You were the one to bring up the story of your punishment, remember that ? It is the sole reason I know what you said happened to you.

What you should also keep in mind is even though you feel personally attacked...that is Not my intention. I'd actually like to help you ..but again like you, there is a point that when I feel attacked I will defend myself....

As to who is being Rude...I don't appreciate being told to Fuck Off ! That is unacceptable !!

Whew...deep breath...Now forget about thinking that I am trying to hurt your feelings...Did the above actually happen to you ?

nerak239/3/2015, 2:11:04 AM1 votes

That one guy /did/ infer that i was crazy, so i see no misinterpretation of intent besides that one post aimed at another fellow that was accidentally not formatted as a reply. if we're being so lax with the term abuse that it's left to interpretation we, again, have an issue. If the word is goign to be watered down to mean "generally unpleasant maybe, kinda, it hurt my feelings i guess" then it's no longer abuse.

I NEVER called you crazy stop slandering me !!! I said someone who continues to follow, watch, contact at least 4 people for over 6 weeks for one game is not acting normal...Creepy is what I said and that is what it is !

Jubbinaut9/3/2015, 2:44:22 AM1 votes

Lack of nesting bothers me, so I'm moving things around a bit, here. Sorry if that's problematic.

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whoops. i was referring to the support role in-game. like Thresh.

That would make my initial statement more than a little nonsensical.

Well, like i said, the robot isn't hard to fool.

I'm not so sure about that.

i can only assume you simply don't believe me at this point. I'm not repeating myself.

I believe that some non-zero number of your reports are truly false. I believe that some non-zero number of your reports are truly valid.

I also believe, however, that what you deem "punishable" and what Riot deems "punishable" differ rather strongly.

if anyone in this thread got banned for how they addressed me I'd call bullshit.

That one guy /did/ infer that i was crazy, so i see no misinterpretation of intent besides that one post aimed at another fellow that was accidentally not formatted as a reply. if we're being so lax with the term abuse that it's left to interpretation we, again, have an issue. If the word is goign to be watered down to mean "generally unpleasant maybe, kinda, it hurt my feelings i guess" then it's no longer abuse.

Imply, not infer. And he wasn't implying insanity - he was implying behavior disturbing to others.

Also, why are you so stuck on this whole "verbal abuse" thing? I have no idea where it came from in the first place.

none of them are valid, save the time i got my balls nailed to the wall. I'd love to protest them individually based on context, but i can't.

See, that's the thing I have a hard time believing - though I suppose it's certainly possible.

It's just that... false reports really aren't all that common. I mean, they do happen. It's totally a thing. But you're talking about getting near-constant false reports.

And if you're getting reported that often, there's got to be something you're doing that's bothering the absolute shit out of people. I won't pretend to know what, or why, but if there weren't something bothering these people about your behavior, the level of false reporting you're talking about would require a hell of a lot of organization.

yup. though ive seen a ton of chat-logs on the forums that would imply the line between negative and constructively is extremely fucking skewed and grey, with any questionable cases being tagged as negative.

Few things are as black and white as we would wish.

Though I haven't seen any judgment calls that I thought were truly questionable.

I saw four people be unquestionably toxic get away with nothing, so i'll have to disagree with that. else i wouldn't be here.

As I've said repeatedly, all that means is that no case was built for them yet.

It doesn't mean their behavior is acceptable.

It doesn't mean that the system will ignore that behavior once it has a chance to see it.

It ONLY means that the system hasn't actually seen it, because there hasn't been a case. Yet.

doesn't change that 99% of the reports are baseless. either you don't believe me and I'm wasting my time, or you're repeating yourself for redundancy's sake. either you think I'm full of shit, in which case why are we talking? or you think I'm delusional and am quite toxic.

You've created a false dichotomy, here. It's true enough that I don't believe that you receive constant false reports - but I do believe that you believe that. And it's true enough that I'm repeating myself, but it's not a matter of intentional redundancy, so much as my own inability to simplify the concept further.

I don't think you're full of shit. Nor do I think you're delusional. I do, however, think you're mistaken. And there's quite a lot of difference between having a misconception and having delusions.

The only proof i can give you that they are baseless is that ive never had any action taken agaist my account depsite getting pop-ups from auto reports atleast three times a week, usually once a day. That, and the fact that i have multiple cases where i got a verbal abuse pop-up after a game with an immediate /mute all. in multiple of those cases i got jungle and had to ping for ganks, so refusing to communicate isn't valid. again, none of that goes anywhere if you just think I'm lying so whatever.

The thing I'm trying to point out is that it doesn't matter what you were reported for. Some hypotheticals:

If you were intentionally feeding, and you were reported for verbal abuse, that's still a valid report.

If you were using offensive language, and you were reported for verbal abuse, that's still a valid report.

If you demonstrated a negative attitude, and you were reported for offensive language, that's still a valid report.

Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, but muting others doesn't prevent them from seeing your own chat - it only prevents you from seeing theirs.

That's completely besides the point, I'm just saying i don't use words that arbitrarily gets a worse reaction. I don't say fag, i say bitch tits.

Which is still punishable - albeit not as immediately.

They have told me they don't get logs for any report, validated or no, that didn't get a case. so convinently they have a log of me loosing my fucking mind the one time i snapped, but not of the however many 'validated' reports that lead up to that case. I'd actually LOVE to know how many cases my account has triggered that i was found innocent, or whatever.

They do have logs for each game in that case, however. With rare few exceptions, all cases require more than one reported game to be built.

I have said this time, and time, and time, and time again. And if I'm not mistaken, a lot of the times i was talking with you.

Nope. Not with me.

I got no /valid/ warnings. warning implies you did something wrong. all i got was the constant feedback of "your account has recently been reported." warning would imply that either the pop-up was the result of a valid report, or a ban/chat restriction worthy case was lowered or waved and i was given a warning.

A warning - to me - would imply that you were informed that something you did was meaningfully bothersome to someone else, and that you should be aware and watch your behavior.

In that sense, the pop-ups are exactly that.

What did happen, however, is I got a constant stream of feedback informing me my account was reported until i lost my shit one time and instantly got banned, chat restriction, and had my account threatend wiht perma ban.

Perhaps you should not have ignored that feedback?

Any slack the system has built in was srtipped from daily auto reporters. that's my point. but you know what? i don't fucking care. What i do care about, however, is the two fucking assholes that did nothing but personally attack me for about fiftenn minutes. I don't care how it happend, i got singled out.

Let's talk about that. Who singled you out, do you think?

nerak239/3/2015, 2:46:23 AM1 votes

Crazy implies I might be trying to insult you ! Saying that I think an action you took is creepy is stating an opinion. That is the distention! I did not say this to you in a way that meant insult.

Your utter refusal to accept that you were punished and that you got no confirmation that others in the game did not is getting old. You keep saying you got singled out and are repeatedly told a simple truth, It makes Zero difference what you state they said to you because you are responsible for your actions.

nerak239/1/2015, 4:05:14 PM1 votes

How do you know the people haven't been punished ?

Does anyone know if you can actually tell if someone got a Chat restrict or something ? Honest question here because I never thought to check it out ??

EDIT: I had to change the post a bit...6 weeks seems like a long time to keep tabs on something that happened in one game ..kinda creepy to do :(

puffin masta9/1/2015, 6:08:58 AM1 votes

I had pictures. they had the chatlogs. if they're not going to follow up on it what's the point?