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Why do people defend trolls?

NerdBird·12/27/2014, 5:03:09 AM·2 votes·728 views

So in my last game we were winning mid into late game but not by much. One bad teamfight and we would probably have lost. So we are pushing down mid and teamfight breaks out (im playing ziggs btw) We get the 2nd tower kill 4 of them and riven shows up to clean up. We were pretty low so we started to run and she kill 2 of our team and is chasing me and thresh. Im throwing down minefields to slow her and it looks like we will get away. Thresh decides to stop running and taunt. She jumps and kills him. I make it back to base and tell him he shouldnt have taunted and just kept running, he is gunna throw the game.

He rages hard. He says "fine, im gunna throw it then", goes down mid and starts 1v5ing. Our pantheon then starts yelling at me telling me to stfu (even though i hadnt said anything to him since i said that he shouldnt taunt) and they both start accusing me of being terrible. I must say it wasnt my greatest game, but i ended 6/4/8 and 198 cs. I kept telling them that i didnt mean anything by it and i just wanted him to play seriously, but then that opened the flood gates for the whole team telling me to just stop talking and trash talking me and praising thresh. I wasnt yelling at anyone and i was doing decent game-wise, but that didnt stop them from defending the raging, intentionally feeding, fowl mouthed support. Why do people do this?

7 Comments

Dr Jarjarbinks12/27/2014, 5:15:28 AM3 votes

This is why, unless you know the person, keep your @#$%$@#@#@ criticisms to yourself. You think it wasnt obvious to everyone he shouldnt have taunted? Why you need to state the obvious? Its upsetting to others because you essentially use the unfair advantage of hindsight to place yourself "above" the person who made the mistake. This guy obviously over reacted but I can relate to how he felt more than how you do. Especially if you werent doing well. Like all you have to offer the team is stating the obvious and you think you are doing us a favor?! I guess Ill do my part so at least you will be right about me throwing and that will make you feel better and you obviously need that.

also sorry if this seems harsh but I have my own lol related emotional traumas=)

Eleshakai12/27/2014, 9:56:06 AM3 votes

You should NEVER criticize your allies. Why? Because chances are they KNOW they screwed up and are angry at themselves, so by criticizing them all you're doing is giving them a logical person to take it out on: you. If you'd kept your mouth shut, the person probably would've eventually come to terms with his mistake and become a better player, but by providing an outlet you've not only ensured that the game became a nightmare for everyone, but also that he can now go 'that f***ing ziggs screwed that game for me' whether it's true or not.

Here are my simple rules that I used ot follow back when I played(and why they're important), hopefully they can help you since they helped me a lot(climbed from silver to plat last season before I quit playing):

  1. Your goal is to become a better player, not to win the game. Focus on always trying to improve, and always remember that your goal IS to become a better player. (This rule is important because it helps you enjoy the game more and makes the others easier. If your goal is to improve as a player, there is literally no situation short of you having computer/internet/server issues that can get in the way of that. An ally feeds? No biggie, work on how to play from behind. A teammate DCs? Focus on defensive warding. The enemy is massively ahead? Focus on dodging skillshots and trying to play defensively. etc. etc. etc. Losing no longer is a big deal. Leavers are no longer a big deal. As long as you have tried to find some what to make the game help your play, the game was a success - whether you won or otherwise.)

  2. Never criticize other players. Literally. Never. Under any circumstances. Ever. (This is important because of what I typed above... and if you insult another player, there is no positive outcome. The best you can hope for is that the person doesn't react to what you said... the absolute best outcome is that the person doesn't pay attention to you. Every other outcome is prettymuch going to result either in him playing worse or him creating some form of toxic argument that could drag your team into hell)

  3. Your mistakes matter, nobody else's do. If you make a mistake, write a quick 'Sorry guys, my bad!' and then make a mental note of what you did wrong(if you have time) and move on. If someone else makes a mistake, ignore it - if they apologize, tell them it's no big deal. Whether or not it is a big deal! (This one matters because you can so easily diffuse a negative situation by simply apologizing or telling someone it's not a big deal. Ask any pro, any high level player... morale matters SO much in these games. If by writing 4 words you can improve even one player on your team's morale... isn't that a huge gain for your team's chances to win? And if, by doing so, you can prevent your entire team from becoming embroiled in an argument... isn't that even MORE worth it?)

AJStarhiker12/28/2014, 12:17:31 AM2 votes

Considering that Thresh probably thought he was, you know, helping you escape, you turning around and complaining about it was kind of a jerk move.

Pheonixwish12/27/2014, 6:27:39 AM1 votes

Ok, I'm no expert in psychology but it seems like the team was having a pleasant time enjoying their advantage...and the second you showed a hint of anger (which I know wasn't intentional), everyone defended their innocence, and so sided with Thresh.

Again when you tried to make amends (which was awesome of you), adding the words "play seriously" must have also come off wrong, and fueled their single-mindedness in defending the support...and it snowballs from there.

I may be completely off, but that's how I see it. I hope your next few games go better :)

Raptamei12/27/2014, 11:30:20 PM1 votes

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that didnt stop them from defending the raging, intentionally feeding, fowl mouthed support. Why do people do this?

Because they wanted to win and sucking up to Thresh was the only way to get him to stop intentionally feeding.

Perhaps next time keep your mouth shut.