@Meddler & Reav3 - 134 Champions and Only 3 VGU a Year. Growing Concerns

Winterkill·1/17/2017, 7:07:07 PM·2 votes·805 views

This is to address growing concerns that Riot feels doing only 3 VGU a year is right for this game. You have 134 champions and about 15% of that champion population have received a VGU or is new to the game. That is an abysmal amount of champions you have worked on. I think even 15% is being generous. No one is disputing the work done on any of the VGU you have done after Fiora. Quite frankly though this idea that the game can only have 3 VGU a year is unrealistic for the game itself. Riot, you are too stubborn to admit that when you make these stupid decisions, it comes at a cost to something else in this game. Players are not going to continue waiting around 10 plus years for you to even hit a dent in that 134 champions count . . . . . not even before all of the new champions you are going to continue adding into the game. The amount of patience you are expecting of your community will come at the cost of your playerbase. You can sit here and deny it all you want. Do you think Karma, Morde, Shen or Vlad mains are going to continue waiting 10+ years for you to give their champions a VGU? No they are not. These players are going to leave the game, never return, and find something else to devote their time to. Everyone can come into this thread and say whatever you want. To all of you players out there, are you going to wait 10+ years for your champion to finally get looked at for a VGU? No. You are going to find another game that is going to give you what you want because Riot is treating their playerbase like a bunch of numbers. They do not care at the end of the day.

What needs to be done:

  1. You need to either stop releasing new champions or do far less than the amount you do every year. At the expense of new ideas, work being done on other champions, and the LGU team working on balancing new champions . . . . . . it comes at a cost to older champions. I know new champions have their own team working on them before release . . . . but there are a ton of ideas that were given to new champions that were taken from older champions and removed from them, like Ivern's version of a sheld bomb that Karma had, and more that could have been put on to an older champion.

  2. You need to be doing at least 5 VGU a year. You should be doing more than that but let's be realistic . . . . . Riot Games are not superheroes.

  3. Remove champions from class updates. What are you really accomplishing with these updates on champions? You are not accomplishing as much as you think. I think it would be better to completely remove champions from these updates and focus on making the class, items and masteries pertaining to the class better . . . and than do an actual VGU on the champions that really need it. Prioritizing work on Vel'Koz, Annie, Brand and other champions over another that really needs it . . . . . really makes us question whether or not you care about any champion that isn't them and Ryze. If anything, do a mini VGU to ONE or TWO champions part of that class that really needs it . . . . do minor work on their visuals and model . . . . and give them a better, cohesive kit that makes sense for them as the class. Too many times you have wasted time on champions that could have benefited more from a VGU than a class update . . . . when 9/10 you are going to get rid of all those changes in the VGU they receive at some point.

3 VGU is not cutting it. Release new champions that add to the amount of work the Live Game Update team or any other team has to do, comes at a steep cost to other champions. Until you get that 15% up, you should not be doing ANYTHING else but updating your champions. These mini class updates on champions are not fixing the problems for champions and not giving anything to this game, as much as the class changes and items being introduced. Some of these updates are ruining champions, like Vlad did.

I am telling you now, I have one foot out the door. I will not wait another year for you to ignore my champions and openly admit that for the past 4 years you have not communicated once with your team about her. In the past 4 years you have not communicated at all about Karma with your community or amongst yourselves. How does that make these players feel? It makes it feel like you don't care, you don't want to do work on them, and that every single thread for the past 4 years . . . was ignored and not appreciated. I am really curious as to how the community votes in those surveys about balance. It sure looks as though Riot Games doesn't care.

I feel like players get more excited about VGU than they do new champions.

2 Comments

Big Lincoln1/17/2017, 7:11:07 PM3 votes

134 champions don't need VGUs

we certainly don't need shitty rushed reworks either like we've gotten with all the class updates and Shen.

it's better that they take their time. I would rather have something good later than 2 shit products sooner