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Regarding the MMR Boosting bans happening

iDie4NoReason··28 votes·5,615 views

Going to start off by saying I'm not here to defend any case (mine or anyone elses) or to attempt to prove innocence to a forum board full of people who don't care or who would not be likely to believe anyone posting something like this anyways. This is 100% just to inform people of something that I had happen to me so that they can avoid it happening to them, because its not right.

So today I got banned for "MMO Boosting" happening on my account. I'm a Gold 3 player who hasn't had their rating fluctuate outside of Silver 1 - Gold 3 for two years, and still to this day, remains in Gold 4. Now, I get what they are trying to do, and I understand that this way of auditing is likely to find more boosters than innocent players. But they really need to look at this system again.

Below is a Gyazo link to a screenshot showing the officially released definition of "MMR Boosting" which was in the body of my ban notification, along with the punishment summary:

https://i.gyazo.com/3c2d2a75e6b428a3c49688f8d93d0c18.png

I would assume that they've just started auditing accounts in the last month or so. The only time in this time frame that my account was logged in to off of my home network was when I LANing at my buddy's place on halloween. Half the reason I'm posting this is because I'm able to isolate that event so well. It's the only non-normal way I've logged into my account in probably 1.5 years, and I've never shared my account info ever.

I'm not here to cry about it, or to try to contact a Riot employee via the forums...I obviously have an appeal ticket open. I'm just posting this to let others in the community know that I was literally banned and stripped of all my season rewards ever earned because I took my computer to a buddy's house to have some fun, and logged onto league and played ranked at his house.

Just something to think about next time you are about to log in from somewhere that isn't your "standard network" on your account. Needless to say, I was flabbergasted when I opened the email today. Seems pretty easy to get wrongfully banned by the company we give a ton of money to these days.

61 Comments

Linthe14 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/jQLiEW6h-mmr-boosting-punishments-for-the-2015-season

2nd page:

Using a VPN will never result in a MMR Boosting suspension, nor will playing from a friends house. We know players like to play from locations other than home all the time. Our methods take this into consideration. The last thing we want to do is punish someone for hanging out with friends or family.

iDie4NoReason13 votes

Yup its frustrating that it says this and that it's not true.

DrCyanide4 votes

What it says is that it thinks you boosted others, which has nothing to do with the IP address you're playing at at all.

The last message I saw that thought someone had been boosted specifically pointed out date ranges. Your message is different, implying you were on the other end of the service.

iDie4NoReason2 votes

I've never played a game out of Gold....They should be able to realize I'm not good enough to boost. And if participating in boosting is an offense like it says, it wouldnt matter which side of it I'm on. If i was banned because they believe that i was the one boosting others, then it would create even more of a reason for me not to be banned. I'm not even Plat.

OdiousMole10 votes

The second worst player in LoL would still be boosting if they were playing on the worst player's account. You don't have to be plat to boost.

iDie4NoReason4 votes

the second worst player in LoL probably wouldnt have a job at a boosting service sir

Photos of Ghosts3 votes

We're not talking about jobs. If you logged onto someone else's account and played ranked, even if it's your first League of Legends game, it's called boosting and is bannable. Now, did YOU do it? Because I see you claim that you're not good enough, but not that you actually didn't.

iDie4NoReason3 votes

Never have played ranked on anyone elses account and nobody has played ranked on mine ever.

21021475_DEL2 votes

NO REWARDS = TROLL NO REWARDS = TROLL NO REWARDS = TROLL dont forget to troll in ranked

Auroramancer2 votes

You are a special kind of scum

Linthe5 votes

Yea.. I feel for you... Riot is on record as saying they CAN tell if "you" are playing away from home... that is not bannable and specifically will NOT be banned...

Good luck.

Aheadatime5 votes

I dunno man. I take my laptop to a buddy's house and game every now and then, and have done so within the last month. I've never been warned/flagged/banned for it.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

I find it suspicious that you specifically mention that nothing happened on your account in the last month or so; they are constantly building cases against MMR Boosters, they just do the bans in waves. Whatever happened on your account that determined you were being boosted could have happened several months ago.

If there is any doubt in whether you were boosting or not, they will give you the benefit of the doubt and not ban you. Human error is of course a possibility, and they will review your case again if you submit a Support Ticket (as you already have done).

iDie4NoReason5 votes

It's not suspicious I just mentioned it because my account was inactive for a long time. Also, if they have been building a case for several months, how come I'm banned? My rank never moved a tier for any of that time....and my account was inactive for most of that time. I ended last season gold 3-4, and am currently gold 4. Never have gotten higher than Gold 2, and havent been lower than gold 5 in a year. You can check eloking

OperationDEEZ13 votes

As if the banning system didn't have enough holes in it as is.

iDie4NoReason4 votes

I mean, I would imagine that there are a ton of people who have had this happen to them. No way I'm the only one.

Deep Terror Nami10 votes

Every MMR Booster will claim they are innocent. Don't be surprised if nobody believes you.

Linthe6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-21T00:21:35.246+0000)

Every MMR Booster will claim they are innocent. Don't be surprised if nobody believes you.

Yea.. I get that too... I POST that too...

The thing scares me about MMR boosting (versus say toxicity) is there is NO way for the player to prove they DIDNT MMR boost. When toxicity, you get the reform card and there it is: Boom, toxicity.

With MMR boosting?? Nothing...

Sinister Anubis3 votes

{quoted}

Yea.. I get that too... I POST that too...

The thing scares me about MMR boosting (versus say toxicity) is there is NO way for the player to prove they DIDNT MMR boost. When toxicity, you get the reform card and there it is: Boom, toxicity.

With MMR boosting?? Nothing...

If they have strong evidence you were boosting you wont have proof anyways. They build cases like this all the time and its no random occurrence.

Linthe3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-21T16:46:43.804+0000)

If they have strong evidence you were boosting you wont have proof anyways. They build cases like this all the time and its no random occurrence.

Im not saying it's random. Im also not saying OP didnt ELO boost. I have no idea. Never heard of him before.

What I am saying is this: with ANY other ban I can think (toxicity, chargeback etc), the user gets tangible proof of guilt (reform card, credit card statement etc). You can argue about whether the reform card IS toxic or not but there IS the reform card.

With ELO boosting, all they get is Riot's word that they investigated and the ban is valid.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

{quoted}

Im not saying it's random. Im also not saying OP didnt ELO boost. I have no idea. Never heard of him before.

What I am saying is this: with ANY other ban I can think (toxicity, chargeback etc), the user gets tangible proof of guilt (reform card, credit card statement etc). You can argue about whether the reform card IS toxic or not but there IS the reform card.

With ELO boosting, all they get is Riot's word that they investigated and the ban is valid.

When i got ban from wow i didn't get any proof. Riot doesn't need to show you proof at all. With toxcity they show you what you did wrong so you can improve your self. At this point they are not obligated to do anything.

Linthe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-23T15:49:38.151+0000)

When i got ban from wow i didn't get any proof. Riot doesn't need to show you proof at all. With toxcity they show you what you did wrong so you can improve your self. At this point they are not obligated to do anything.

I get the whole "everything in game is Riot's property" deal... and you agreed to TOS deal. Because they CAN do something doesn't mean they SHOULD do something.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

{quoted}

I get the whole "everything in game is Riot's property" deal... and you agreed to TOS deal. Because they CAN do something doesn't mean they SHOULD do something.

now you are just arghuing you dont make sense now. They found him gultiy of something they have no obligation to share that with him or anyone. the only reason reform cards exist is so the player can improve in the future. If he did something to warrent a ban they have no real reason to show him anything to further improve him/her self.

Linthe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-23T16:26:48.671+0000)

now you are just arghuing you dont make sense now. They found him gultiy of something they have no obligation to share that with him or anyone. the only reason reform cards exist is so the player can improve in the future. If he did something to warrent a ban they have no real reason to show him anything to further improve him/her self.

Again.... because they CAN do something doesnt mean they SHOULD do something... It sounds like you are arguing that Riot is infallible and could never perma ban someone who didn't deserve it.

Linthe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-23T16:26:48.671+0000)

now you are just arghuing you dont make sense now. They found him gultiy of something they have no obligation to share that with him or anyone. the only reason reform cards exist is so the player can improve in the future. If he did something to warrent a ban they have no real reason to show him anything to further improve him/her self.

Then why does Riot send out reform cards when they perman ban someone for toxicity??

Sinister Anubis1 votes

{quoted}

Then why does Riot send out reform cards when they perman ban someone for toxicity??

read my other posts nim rod

Linthe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2015-11-23T17:23:06.228+0000)

read my other posts nim rod

Useless post. Thanks again.

Eeyore3 votes

Have you ever played on another account?

Both the Booster and Boostee get banned. Just because your account has never had someone else play on doesn't mean you've not played on another account. If that other account was a smurf then you still have a valid complaint - if it wasn't, well there's your answer.

Wimbledofy1 votes

only the boosted account gets banned. Playing on someone else's account won't get your main account banned as far as I know.

Xanes5 votes

It will, Riot specifically said so after they announced this huge MMR-boosting-banwave a few months ago. IF they can identify your main account of course.

iDie4NoReason3 votes

again, not a boostee OR booster. My ticket has been transferred to another specialist. they've told me that much at least. I've kept asking them over and over for proof so... will be interesting if they continue to macro me with responses or choose to actually read stuff that i posted in the ticket. very hard to win

Solaxo3 votes

Can't wait for a Rioter to come in and completely wreck you

Sarutobi3 votes

I have played not only at friends house but also Internet cafes, over the 5 years I haven't been ban on my account, nor any type of warning. I understand it's hard to believe people, but I trust riot knows what they are doing. Not trying to be rude but you are just one random person. You could be lying because you want your account back.

RogueWill2 votes

My LA account got banned for logging in (and play ranked) on 3 different countries within a week. It was me just traveling back home for vacation and wanting to play, I didn't appeal because I had no way to prove that was actually me (since the third country was traveled by car) but good luck trying to appeal without any kind of prove that it was you on your friends house

Akeydel6 votes

I bet if you did appeal theres a good chance the ban would be lifted, depending on the circumstances. But if you logged in and ONLY played ranked on champs you rarely play, and did outstanding, then you might be SOL.

RogueWill1 votes

{quoted}

I bet if you did appeal theres a good chance the ban would be lifted, depending on the circumstances. But if you logged in and ONLY played ranked on champs you rarely play, and did outstanding, then you might be SOL.

Here is the thing. I have an NA account and an LA account, I live on the states but I constantly travel to LA and the ping is around 250-300. over there so I decided it will be easier to get an LA account for travel. Normally is around 3 to 4 months between each time I on my LA account (plenty of enough time to learn new champions). I can't tell you for sure if I used the champion that i normally used on that account or not because i can't remember. So the appeal would probably go bad and worse case scenario I could get my NA account banned as well, if I were to lose an account I rather be my account that I play roughly 50 games a year on xD

Sinister Anubis1 votes

{quoted}

My LA account got banned for logging in (and play ranked) on 3 different countries within a week. It was me just traveling back home for vacation and wanting to play, I didn't appeal because I had no way to prove that was actually me (since the third country was traveled by car) but good luck trying to appeal without any kind of prove that it was you on your friends house

If you are playing on the same laptop there is proof there they can trace the HARDWARE IP to that same lap top.

nerak232 votes

Below is a Gyazo link to a screenshot showing the officially released definition of "MMR Boosting" which was in the body of my ban notification, along with the punishment summary:

This is a screen shot of what is in A notification right ? Why didn't you put up Your notification ?

I'm not about to call you a liar or say Riot can't make mistakes because then can and do !

But, I have logged on to my account from 3 locations and at least 4 computers over at least 2 years and not just once but on different occasions. I just want the other side of the coin seen here also..never got punished or accused of anything. ?

EDIT: no make that 5 computers I forgot I bought a new once since I started playing ..

blackmoma2 votes

i know 2 people who got boosted and still have there rewards and aren't banned

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

...their. And why aren't you reporting them?

However comma1 votes

Because riot is banning people for no reason, We have to make sure all the hackers stay healthy please

Kürama1 votes

A lot of people say Riot bans for no reason, but 99.9% of the time the punishment is justified.

Kürama1 votes

Yet.

Jack º1 votes

Put in a Support Ticket...

iDie4NoReason2 votes

I did. Also confirmed I AM a "he" :D

The Poetic Zed1 votes

where? o.O

Sinister Anubis1 votes

{quoted}

Going to start off by saying I'm not here to defend any case (mine or anyone elses) or to attempt to prove innocence to a forum board full of people who don't care or who would not be likely to believe anyone posting something like this anyways. This is 100% just to inform people of something that I had happen to me so that they can avoid it happening to them, because its not right.

So today I got banned for "MMO Boosting" happening on my account. I'm a Gold 3 player who hasn't had their rating fluctuate outside of Silver 1 - Gold 3 for two years, and still to this day, remains in Gold 4. Now, I get what they are trying to do, and I understand that this way of auditing is likely to find more boosters than innocent players. But they really need to look at this system again.

Below is a Gyazo link to a screenshot showing the officially released definition of "MMR Boosting" which was in the body of my ban notification, along with the punishment summary:

https://i.gyazo.com/3c2d2a75e6b428a3c49688f8d93d0c18.png

I would assume that they've just started auditing accounts in the last month or so. The only time in this time frame that my account was logged in to off of my home network was when I LANing at my buddy's place on halloween. Half the reason I'm posting this is because I'm able to isolate that event so well. It's the only non-normal way I've logged into my account in probably 1.5 years, and I've never shared my account info ever.

I'm not here to cry about it, or to try to contact a Riot employee via the forums...I obviously have an appeal ticket open. I'm just posting this to let others in the community know that I was literally banned and stripped of all my season rewards ever earned because I took my computer to a buddy's house to have some fun, and logged onto league and played ranked at his house.

Just something to think about next time you are about to log in from somewhere that isn't your "standard network" on your account. Needless to say, I was flabbergasted when I opened the email today. Seems pretty easy to get wrongfully banned by the company we give a ton of money to these days.

1st off they do look at the system. They look at mainly who is logging into your account from different locations. Good example is this.(If i logged into my league account in New York City and then log off and then 30 minutes later someone in California LA logged into my account to play some solo que games) This shows riot 1 of 2 things both are ban worthy. 1 Is you are account sharing which is a big no no. 2 You are in fact getting elo boosted.

Photos of Ghosts3 votes

First off quoting instead of replying, in particular to the first post, is completely useless. Secondly when he says "they should look at their system again" he is obviously not implying anything except that it's too loose and identifies as boosters even totally unrelated activities. Which is not necessarily true, bit still, don't make him say what he didn't.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=QEYM1uLn,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2015-11-21T17:29:08.517+0000)

First off quoting instead of replying, in particular to the first post, is completely useless. Secondly when he says "they should look at their system again" he is obviously not implying anything except that it's too loose and identifies as boosters even totally unrelated activities. Which is not necessarily true, bit still, don't make him say what he didn't.

They've worked on the system for over a year i'm pretty sure they know what they are doing.

iDie4NoReason1 votes

Neither have ever happened. Again....like the reason I'm posting this is because its absolutely unwarranted because i've never done anything that should flag me, and somehow the system is broken enough to ban me.

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