Off meta picks

DrathTurtle314·4/25/2015, 9:09:27 AM·1 votes·572 views

Hey guys, I just got out of a couple team builder games and I wanted the community's opinion on something.

Where is it appropriate to experiment with new pick? If you have no idea whether or not something will work, like you heard that Sona top lane was really strong and you wanted to test it, what queue would you go into? Also, what is your opinion when something doesn't work, how should you adjust in-game to failed experiments?

The games I played were as a Thresh jungle and Morgana jungle, neither worked, because I couldn't get the gold to build the items I needed to farm/be relevant for team fights. My theory was that they would be good for ganks with their hook/snare and had AoE spells for camp clearing. For thresh, I rushed item 3725 in an attempt to help his clear, with cinderhulk, I was able to clear, but the laning phase had already ended and my ganks were sub-par up to that point, so I didn't do anything that game. In my morgana game, I had a lot more luck. I didn't start with a machete, and soon realized morgana has no sustain, but I was able to survive and start ganking. I was unable to ever get the power I needed to get gold in the jungle and after our top lane DC'ed, top pushed into our base and we lost.

In these examples, is there something I should have done differently? Playing jungle against bots is difficult because it puts top at a disadvantage and picking a jungler that isn't necessarily a jungler can just make that even worse, but going into pvp with this seems like a bad idea too. What do you guys think?

On a side note, I am extremely familiar with both these champs mechanics in the support role.

3 Comments

LegendaryLemur4/25/2015, 9:35:07 AM2 votes

I tried morg jungle once... her clear wasn't that bad. Then again i'd tried annie jungle the game before so maybe it was some kind of relativity effect.

To answer OP's question, i personally would try in co-op game first. You can just ask in pregame lobby if top is okay soloing, and if not just try it next game. In my experience most people prefer to 1v2 top in co-op games anyways.

Its fine to try it in team builder or normals as well, just not in ranked (this is probably obvious, it wasn't even an option in the poll). Just be prepared to be kicked from a lot of team builder rooms lol.

MLDzXnRRR4/25/2015, 9:24:17 AM1 votes

If you are playing thresh and morgana as gankers, you should camp the lanes, not farming the jungle; if you want to farm, pick champion that can clear fast. I used to play roaming Talon or Talon support (in ranked). You leech some xp, farm from some lane and after lvl 3 you go and gank, and kill. Anything can work, if you are good enough. (Annie, Zyra and Heimer were good junglers+gankers before the jungle monsters buffs - but only if you don't die from invade, when you do red. Haven\t tried them this season)

Crett4/25/2015, 10:55:38 AM1 votes

As a guy who tried Thresh jungle, nononononononononononononononononono it's bad. And so is tank Twitch jungle (the passive didn't make up for the lost damage as much as I thought it would)

If you want to try something off-meta yet insanely powerful, take Thresh top and farm to high heaven. If you can survive the laning phase, all you need to do is build like this. item 3100 item 3115 item 3089 item 3065 item 3102 With these five items, Thresh has the sustained damage to kill any tank, the burst to kill any squishy, and the durability to survive both physical and magical damage (thanks to his passive).

This takes REALLY late game, and since you'll be busy farming, you'll basically need to be carried up to this point. But with this, Thresh will outscale the enemy team, and then keep scaling up until the end of the game.