Regarding Player Reform and Ranked Trolling. (READ POST BEFORE WATCHING VIDEO)

Im TransJhinder·9/26/2015, 2:22:54 PM·1 votes·376 views

Of course, there are probably a billion posts on this particular subject, but I recently got out of a ranked game that compelled me to make a post just to see what the general thought was on trolling and how to fix it, and perhaps how to play around it if possible.

So the situation is as follow, keep in mind this is LOW gold elo, as unfortunately I haven't had time to crawl through the troll infested elo's yet.

You've got your champ select, and your 5th pick is an ADC preferred, unfortunately for that individual, your 3rd pick is ALSO an ADC preferred, so standard stuff right? We don't always get what we want to play role-wise in ranked, its part of the game. However, said 5th pick "aint gonna support a silver noob." says they're going support Vayne , locks in Kalista So now we've got a problem, 1. The lack of a proper support champion with the correct utility to help and the rest of the team, and 2. Someone who has already proven that they don't want to cooperate.

Given the situation, the game actually went pretty well for the beginning, all lanes played quite well early, MonkeyKing had some stellar ganks, and we got decently far ahead (approx 5409GP at 19:00 as per client). Unfortunately, this is when things get to where the term toxic should be used. Most of us have Kalista muted, because we don't want to deal with the attitude, who would right? We're ahead in the game, she's died a few times from overextending but hey, life goes on, right?

The toxic then sells all of her items, and makes it her sole goal in game to find the enemy Annie and provide her with as many kills as possible.

  1. So you have this doran's blade running around, rending camps from , diving into Annie solo every time she sees her, and generally causing chaos. Of course, as we near end game, she buys her items back to ensure she has items in the end game lobby.

This results in a loss. The Kalista talks a bunch of toxic stuff in end game lobby chat (calling teammates "trashies" and telling us to stay in silver noobs etc.) The thing that bothers me here is that most punishments result from chat related occurrences, such as harassing a player in game or other offenses chat related. There doesn't seem to be any follow up for anything GAMEPLAY related, so why even have something in place that allows you to report someone for it?

For the first part of the game, we were able to play around a toxic player by banding together, but sometimes, having someone like that makes it too heavy to carry with 4 people though.

I compare this to why popular Youtuber VideogameDunkey quit, even though none of us responded to the toxic player in an offensive manner, we actually had her chat muted for the game. Its not toxic chat that's the problem, its game-play trolls.

I highly recommend watching Sky Williams Video on why Dunkey quit, because he has a good point on the fact that THIS IS FIXABLE. It just requires the general willpower to do so.

So I pose these questions to you, as fellow players.

  1. In your games you might have had someone like this. What do you do to help your team win, and does it work for you?
  2. What's your opinion on how to correct negative player impact in games? I'll link in Sky's Video in case anyone is interested in watching it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UszbmwIv2D0

2 Comments

OhBoyItsaMegaman9/26/2015, 2:48:53 PM1 votes

The thing that bothers me here is that most punishments result from chat related occurrences, such as harassing a player in game or other offenses chat related. There doesn't seem to be any follow up for anything GAMEPLAY related, so why even have something in place that allows you to report someone for it?

What is your reasoning behind this statement? You say there "doesn't seem to be any follow-up", but how would you know how many people get banned for griefing?

There are a lot of people coming to these boards and to Reddit, saying "I got banned for verbal abuse and that's not fair, I should be able to retaliate against trolls." These people honestly believe that what they did should not be against the rules; that's why they complain. Generally speaking, intentional feeders do not feel this way. If this Kallista gets banned, you will never see him come to the forums and say "Riot should allow intentional feeding, I should not be banned for this." So that's why those bans are less visible to you than toxicity bans.

Im TransJhinder9/26/2015, 6:13:43 PM1 votes

Thanks for the feedback, also, love the name, taking it to be an Egoraptor reference, so forgive me if i'm wrong in that assumption.

As far as reasoning, its just an observation, I have friends that get heated about played doing the whole "troll in game but talk nice in chat" sort of deal, both teams report, and they get the same guy again anywhere from 2-10 days later. That's where i was getting that assumption from, and as none of us are able to see exactly who gets banned for what when at what time exactly, that would be cause to believe that there's no way to tell whats more common. who knows whats HONESTLY visible?

Regardless of that, again I thank you for the feedback, I definitely agree that people that harass or are banned for those types of reasons are definitely more liable to complain about their situations.