Pros to being stubborn in soloq?

loserluki·9/22/2015, 7:35:49 PM·1 votes·511 views

Recently, I've been losing more and more games because I've been prioritizing teamwork over performance. It's the small things: unplanned trading champions ("I main Riven, trade me Thresh and go support so I can stomp" etc.) leashing the jungler after an invade, giving red/blue to the adc/mid, roaming as a group before a tower is down. It puts me behind, but usually helps out the team as a whole, like taking an objective or preventing the enemy team to pick Garen. From what I've been told, this happens all the time at higher ranks, but I'm in Silver (and dropping fast).

I notice that my Plat+ friends are really stubborn when it comes to teamwork in soloq. They never give buffs or camps to teammates, hardly leash if the jungler doesn't take the first camp right away, and never ever trade. Usually, they spend less time roaming as a team and more time farming/ pushing lanes/ picking off enemies solo, even when they support. Playing draft normals as premade 5 with them is abysmal; make a mistake, and none of them will care enough to help you out.

Is this the best way to think of your team in soloq? I know the dynamic of ranked teams is much different (and even from rank to rank in solo), and from my experience I'm way more suited to that.

4 Comments

Vistha Kai9/22/2015, 7:50:47 PM2 votes

As a former high Platinum player (gods bless matchmaking and pick order, being last pick in the Red team 20 times in a row) I can say, most people get their fingers burnt trying to help the team and simply abandon the sinking ship after. "They couldn't win 1v1 and kept on feeding. I won't waste my time to help, because they will throw it away and feed the enemy more gold." Which, well... happens way too often.

Seemingly the only way to not go insane in the solo queue is to not give a single eff about your team. Can they pull their own weight? Say "gj" and carry on. They can't? Effing matchmaking, ignore them, try to work around the "obstacle".

ltmetal9/22/2015, 7:52:04 PM2 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

Perhaps you may have already heard of the prisoner's dilemma, but it provides a case where two people who are incentivized to work together actually will betray each other most of the time.

Trust is a hard thing to come by in an online interaction with strangers. You will have to make some hard choices based on your own personality and goals.

Kãtãrinã9/22/2015, 7:41:31 PM1 votes

usually in plat elo it feels its every man for themselves. Just my personal experiance in plat. Sometimes its not like that, it can be better like when i jungle unless u ask for my buff you aren't going to get it probable unless i think you needed it or wish to keep you snowballing. All depends on the game and my mood. Its like a grey area. Some games its every man for themselves others it isn't

StealthWarden9/22/2015, 7:47:33 PM1 votes

you are going to have to define "best" here because there different answers. by "best" you mean what seems to be more effective in climbing the solo q ladder or "best" as in generally considered to be morally correct, or "best" as in the way it "should" work.