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StoryDuck··3 votes·565 views

I quit Support. The boards hate them having an opinion. I lose constantly to forces outside my control. I never get respect. Almost every game I lose I win lane hard then lose the game. I'm about to be demoted to gold 1 from diamond 5. I don't know what the fuck is up with league of legends this season but every game I play lately ends in defeat. I have no answer. I have no game plan or solution. I cannot stop my ADC from being out of position. I cannot stop my mid laner without TP from being away from the team on a side lane. I cannot force my jungler to be at the dragon or baron when they spawn. I cannot teach my TOP laner that wards keep him alive when split pushing. I cannot teach my teammates how to farm passively when behind.

I love the support role don't get me wrong, I have been a support main for 3 years now, but enough is enough. I cannot stand losing one more game because of one of my carries are being stupid. When I am support I can peel, engage, disengage, chase, poke, ward and clear waves but I cannot deal the damage needed on my team. I have tried playing carry supports like Zyra and I have had mixed success because unless you snowball a ridiculous amount you will not get the gold and exp needed until late game. Unfortunately most games end before then. I do my best, roaming, vision control of objectives, and wave management when my teammate have no idea what that is.

I can't handle it anymore. I need to be the carry, I need to be able to say, "Well shit...that was my fault". When you are support you don't always get that option. It was fine when my games seemed to be won due to my good playing skills. For some reason I don't feel that anymore. I don't feel like my skills are making a difference. I don't really understand what changed but support feels really terrible to me this season. I want to feel impactful and even when I am landing clutch CC I don't feel like I had any impact. Perhaps this is the type of supports I play, I like AP supports like Nami, Lulu, and Soraka. I play quite a few to be honest and can play all of the AP supports at a very high skill level.

I will admit, I was playing Soraka a lot as she was always a favorite of mine. I really enjoy the healer fantasy and she filled it to the letter. She was over tuned and OP as hell. She is quite balanced now but I miss being able to carry my team. To hit that fantasy of out healing my opponents because I position well, manage my health well, dodge skill shots well, and place CC well. To that I thank Soraka for letting me reach my highest rank. Unfortunately recent changes to Grievous wounds has made it FAR too easy to completely nullify her impact outside of E. DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A RAKA LOVE THREAD this is merely an example of when I felt like I could carry with my skills from support. I think Raka is in a fine place now. I would like to carry with her but that is never going to be support's role. Mark my words, Zyra will be next because she can carry from support role. She was the last champion I felt I could carry with very effectively. Zyra can sometimes but it requires some snowballing first.

I wish someday to return to support. I am sure I will continue to play a game of support here and there. As I mentioned I love the healer role and want to do that more but as it stands I want to be able to say "I misplayed that." instead of having to admit that it was my ADC out of position that cost us the game. I can't control that. I never will be able to. I know there are supports out there that reach higher then diamond 5 and I suspect most of them do so with a duo but if not I have no idea what they do different then me. I cannot think of anything that I can change. Sure there are times I could've done X instead of Y but that doesn't change the fact the midlaner was in base and ADC bot lane when my jungler and top laner decided to engage the enemy team 3v5 under mid turret.

If I am to be demoted to gold division after so long being in plat+ then I will do so because I failed not because my allies failed.

10 Comments

Friendly Ram2 votes

Sorry bout all that. Hope you can get some better teams/ find some friends to fight with in the future.

StoryDuck1 votes

Thank you. I wish I could but if I could find better teams I wouldn't be quitting support. I'm sorry to others because I know it is such a sought after role in Q and the last thing we need is fewer supports. I am not looking forward to 3+ minute wait times but I feel forced into mid or jungle just so I can say it was my fault and no one else's. There is no role that feels more useless then a support with a dumb team. I mean, I'm pretty critical of myself and I always ask myself what I could of done better. I review replays and look at where I screwed up. This is why my mechanics are top notch and I win lane so often. I look at me first to figure out what I could of done better. Maybe I should of Q'd and E'd instead of E'd and Q'd. This is the kind of thing I look at. However, no order of skills or mechanics can make my teammates be where they need to be and I have been losing WAY too many games to this.

Damagefox2 votes

I play support not only so I can help my team, but also because it allows me to be able to make observations and analyze the other team. What items are they building? what are they focussing? where are they going? are they all targetting a particular player. Sadly ANYTIME I try and voice these observations I am ignored simply because I am The support and "ur 0/X". Yeah just because the support isnt constantly getting those "Ez Pentas" thier opinions dont count, they arent considered part of the team, are considered easily disposeable. And worse yet, if the match goes south, its a toss up whether it will be the SUPPORT or JUNGLE who will be thrown under the bus so everyone else can absolve themselves of any blame or responsibility "I played perfectly, We would have won if not for Support/Jungle. Plx report"

I am a support, but I am not your verbal doormat, I am not your scapegoat, Not your lane-slave. I am not there for you to throw to the enemy so you can get your kills while your support is being chewed up like bacon only for you to turn around and try and report your support for feeding.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I agree, though regardless of position I always check to see what the enemy is building, and change my build to counter if need be or reasonably able.

Magical Player1 votes

TLDR for everyone else

"climbed when a champion was "strong" and when she became balanced, it became hard to adjust to the difference. champion of choice was soraka"

So, -learn another role -learn another champion -learn to carry as soraka again

Suck to hear a good support is struggling with teams still, but I'm sure you will level out and continue climbing again

StoryDuck1 votes

WRONG. I carried with Zyra, Nami, Karma, Leona, Janna and Lulu. I just don't feel like I have the ability to carry from support anymore. I challenge you to find a solution to your ADC getting caught out at the start of every teamfight. That was my last game. Literally every time in the front line, ignored me others everyone. Lost game. Sad thing, won lane. This is just one of many things that can happen to prevent a support from winning. I knew the second I post this someone would get all pissy about me giving an example. I even mentioned it was just an example. I don't give a fuck about soraka. I carried with many but I don't feel like I do anymore.

Magical Player1 votes

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WRONG. I carried with Zyra, Nami, Karma, Leona, Janna and Lulu. I just don't feel like I have the ability to carry from support anymore. I challenge you to find a solution to your ADC getting caught out at the start of every teamfight. That was my last game. Literally every time in the front line, ignored me others everyone. Lost game. Sad thing, won lane. This is just one of many things that can happen to prevent a support from winning. I knew the second I post this someone would get all pissy about me giving an example. I even mentioned it was just an example. I don't give a fuck about soraka. I carried with many but I don't feel like I do anymore.

Relearn the role, if you don't have the ability carry as you like relearn it.

I'm sorry for misunderstanding your post about soraka.

Play around the fact that your adc will be a dunder head and wait for that moment to engage on the enemy when they go in for dunderhead adc : )

manbearswine1 votes

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Relearn the role

Or learn another one, might as well.

StoryDuck1 votes

I often played around problems like that. The problem is that if my carries make bad decisions I often cannot deal the damage needed. I am amazing at peeling and protecting my carries but I can't force them to be good. It isn't just ADCs either. Perhaps it is just I am having incredibly bad luck for a bit but I've had enough. I've worked hard to get in high plat and stay there. Just because my team cannot make good decisions shouldn't reflect so poorly on my win rate and rank. I will take responsibility for my errors. I know I have made my fair share and have played poorly some games. I am quite happy with being in plat as I know I don't quite yet have the skills to get that higher rank and stay there. I hope one day I do but it seems I cannot learn anything else or doing anything else in the support role at this time. I need to take charge of carrying if I want to get higher. I know my mechanical skills are top notch and it is just a matter of learning the roles, perhaps this is the key for me improving my support role? I don't know at this time. All I know is that I want to feel like it is more within my power to carry the game.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

In reply to your comment about not being able to reposition with your allies; go with tahm kench, he's a bit clunky since allies can still decide when/where to land, but it's better than nothing. Unless you're used to playing as a classic tank though, it'll be rough the first few games; conditional damage, and meaningful choice crowd control. He also suffers the problem nautilus has in being very squishy early game, but late game he's got the problem of only being able to body guard one champion at a time unlike braum (as he can potentially protect his entire team). Think of him like a cross between garen & braum; he can't initiate beyond waddling into the fray, but he can take out a key target if given the chance, or save an ally from a killing strike if on his toes.

Other than that, I concur, supports are more harassed than ever in this increasingly hostile game environment. Yet riot still questions why no-one wants to play it, maybe they should roam the boards or play as the role.

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