Has anyone run into toxic 4man premades?

Serevas·5/8/2016, 5:46:06 PM·26 votes·1,612 views

Just curious as to how many people have actually experienced this before, I literally just got two in a row on the rotating game mode.

The first was semi-understandable, I was playing like shit, the second they just didn't like the pick and attempted to incite the enemy team to report me just for picking it.

I just want to see if this is a wide spread problem of it was just really bad luck on my end.

24 Comments

J Epstein5/8/2016, 5:51:26 PM3 votes

Yeah, I ran into SEVERAL in a row in ranked, they were all toxic and intentional feeding. now they are pretty much expected in ranked for me now, so i might just wait until next season or until a true Solo Q comes back to play again.

mason water5/8/2016, 8:13:10 PM2 votes

i ran into one but it seemed like there was just one bad apple in the group of four, and let me tell you, it was one rotten apple.

Obungo 5/9/2016, 3:07:08 AM2 votes

Never. Not once. I have the feeling that these people that encounter "toxic 4 man premades" probably do something to piss them off, get into a fight with them for no reason, and proceed to come complain on the forums.

Sounds like the solo community.

Wrig5/9/2016, 1:02:41 AM2 votes

I've definitely run into them. As a commonly solo player, 4mans are the worst. Playing with them feels awful. They either flame you a ton (which I'll get to in a second) or say absolutely nothing at all. There's nothing like trying to communicate with your team via the in game chat while they're just yakking away on voice coms while never saying anything in chat and never pinging. I've had that happen multiple times (in ranked, since I tend to play that most).

I queued up for a normal game one time recently where I had that perma-flame 4man. Two of them in particularly would be vitriolic beyond belief, and as the solo I couldn't do anything about it. If I was actually toxic (which I wasn't, most all of my comments were about objectives and such), I would get reported and banned since they have 4 people to report me. If I try to report them, nothing happens since I'm the only one who sends in a report, and single reports do objectively nothing. Was an utterly miserable match as I just had to try to play the game the best I could while being constantly flamed by 2 of them and having 1 of those 2 flamers go full troll in game.

If there was an "opt out of being placed with 4mans" button, I'd press it in a heartbeat. I've had far more negative experiences than positive ones with 4man premades. Or hey, I heard rumors of this mystical idea called "solo-queue"? Maybe Riot should look into that [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SirSmokeysAlot5/9/2016, 5:04:53 AM2 votes

Almost all of the 4 man premades I have encountered are actually all very respectful players. Normally they coordinate with me, ping, and really just communicate with me overall. (Top lane player so im normally in my island anyways but i knew when drag was going on). However, I did run in to an extremely toxic 4 man the other day. Started calling me some real hate speech shit. Out of the blue no reason. So I might have just did my own thing that game and just let them die in stupid situations. (Normally im the type to back my team up if theres even a small chance we could come out on top.) We still won though. Report and move on. Rito will get em.

EPIKON5/9/2016, 5:06:27 AM2 votes

I CAN TAKE ON TOXIC PREMADES JUST NOT WORTHLESS ONES.

The Last Django5/9/2016, 9:40:29 PM1 votes

When I was playing ranked earlier this season with my friends (once I got into Gold 5 I stopped playing Ranked, mainly because I prefer casual Normals with my friends, but also because season rewards have historically stopped at Gold and above), we played in 4-man pre-mades. As something of a "team leader", I made it a point to remind them that we would need to work around the random 5th player. If the random didn't like their role and wanted another one, we'd let them have it. If they played AD, we made sure to compensate with AP, and vice-versa. If they picked a strong teamfight champion like Malphite or Wukong, we picked champions that could supplement that.

If the random didn't group for team fights even after it was obvious that we needed to (and made it known to them), we worked with that instead of flaming them. There were a few games where the random realized we were pre-made and started flaming us (because I understand the stereotype around the toxic 4-man) but we never let that bother us and continued to work with them as much as we could. Instead of making the plays centered around our group and using our ability to speak and coordinate to each other to allow US to win, we used our communication to facilitate the RANDOM to win, and therefore ourselves in the process. We won most of the games we played this way, and I actually kind of started liking Ranked again.

I don't mean to speak for all 4-man pre-mades, as I know there are bad ones out there, or else the stereotype wouldn't exist, but I do wish more of them operated how my friends and I did. It kept the game fun and not frustrating and toxic, choosing to focus on the variable instead of the constants in our equation.

Sukishoo5/9/2016, 1:04:49 AM1 votes

I've experienced toxic everything :) but yeah I tend to find them often when playing the RGMs. They are allllllll over those.

TonyTonyMordecai5/9/2016, 1:29:18 AM1 votes

The few times I was paired with a 4 man they were pretty chill. Then again, it might've just been normals, but whatever.

Weeaboos Rise Up5/9/2016, 2:53:24 AM1 votes

Had a 4 man that were really something. let's just say I was cursed out to the point that it looked like a new language in all chat.

Fovere5/8/2016, 8:45:34 PM1 votes

Premades comprise the vast majority of my game experiences, and they are frequently "toxic",

Aside from that point, most games with premades tend to be unbalanced by nature, which is why ranked teams were good. You had a set roster that could play ranked matches and get to their proper Elo, which DQ doesnt really allow

Bârd5/10/2016, 3:00:21 AM1 votes

I am a support main, and I pretty much exclusively solo.

Suprisingly, I never run into 4 mans that flame me.

Most of the time, my problems stem from the idiots who don't comprehend ranked.

The ones who queue up for a game when they have to leave in 30 minutes.

The ones who afk if you pick a champ they don't like.

The ones who instalock that "NEW KOREAN BUILD I SAW ON YOUTUBE" without practicing it.

The ones who intentionally feed if someone on your team criticizes them in the slightest.

ElysMustache5/10/2016, 10:51:51 AM1 votes

I didn't pick one, because I think the poll is too limited.

Have I ever? Sure.

Have I this season? No. If I did experience it a couple of times, would I attribute it to dynamic queue? No.

WOLFJOB5/9/2016, 5:10:12 AM1 votes

I would say that less than half of the pre-mades that are in my solo queue are negative experiences. I am noticing A LOT more people trying out all sorts of new roles/champs in ranked and normals but bombing horribly. Sometimes you just get that heavy dedicated enemy carry or that organized enemy world class team.

Feels like I'm left out of the game sometimes with some team's mentality - but it's alright, i am really persistent. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Mojihito6665/9/2016, 8:18:06 AM1 votes

Always.

And of course Premades goes 0/4 but it is your fault they lose and you suck.

SmileyOwnsYou5/9/2016, 8:28:12 AM1 votes

Happened tp me, bad thing is that they 4 reported me and also made the enemy team believe that i was toxic so they reported me also. got 10 game chat restriction :(

The Whamboozler5/9/2016, 8:41:18 AM1 votes

I have... and no, it's not understandable. A player having a bad game is no reason to treat them like crap unless they are intentionally feeding. The solo player TENDS to do the worst on the team when he's with a premade, due to his lack of synergy with the other four players and the fact that their plans, strats and actions often leave him out or give no shits about him.

If a premade starts flaming you for having a bad game... they deserve a report. Unfortunately, I don't think those reports DO anything... so riot just expects you to deal with it.

SSShutTheDuckUp5/8/2016, 9:02:03 PM1 votes

It might not be fair to say that all premade groups are toxic, however a lot of them are. And a toxic group of 4 for example is 10^4 times worse than a single toxic player. That's what makes people angry at them and want SoloQ (me included)

xl Kirito lx5/8/2016, 10:59:09 PM1 votes

I've ran into one 4 man pre-made that I know of. Nice people. This is over... 300+ games on multiple accounts across multiple MMR's. I've met more troll solo players than duo/trio/quad. I can carry a 4 man that doesn't say anything useful all game. I can't carry the 0-13 top laner, that our jungler is raging at.

Thumpin5/8/2016, 11:30:58 PM1 votes

I had one that intentionally fed and trolled me. I had another that refused to communicate with me in any way, not even pings. I had another that was all Asian players who literally could not speak English.

I had player like this from time to time in the old solo queue system. The worst cases I experienced were toxic duos. But this is far worse. Give me a toxic, flaming team of solo players over coordinated crybabies any day.