Why League of Legends may seem "worse" to some people

Toben·3/27/2015, 9:07:56 PM·38 votes·3,947 views

warning: long post.

So I often see people say things like "league is so bad now, I'm thinking of switching over to dota". In reality, EVERY game has it's bad points, but it takes playing that game for a long time to see it.

I see lots of threads about how "league is totally unbalanced" and "what are the designers thinking". But actually, is you go on the forums for other games like Dota, starcraft, hearthstone, smite, you will see that ALL of them have threads like these. If you think switching to a 'more balanced' game will help....it won't. Because after playing for a long time, you will start to see the bad aspects of that game.

I actually started playing Dota 2 about a year ago, in fact I've also experimented with starcraft and hearthstone, not because I hated league but because I wanted to try something new. And you know, after having put in a TON of hours into Dota, learning all the champions and watching pro games, and spending time reading other people's thoughts on the forums, I realized that the same thing that happens to league players also happens to Dota players. And starcraft players.

You see, when you first start playing a game, you are so enraptured by all the possibilities. You can play any champion you want and it doesn't matter that much if you lose, it's more about having fun. I mean, that's how it was when I first started playing League, I just went about discovering new champions. And that's also how it was when I started Dota a year ago, every hero I played it was like "lol this is too op".

And it was all fun and exciting. But as time passes, you start to learn what strategies don't work, what champions not to play, and games tend to become more boring. Eventually, you start to see only certain champions, you start to play the game in only one way. And that's why I think for some people League has gotten "worse", in the sense that it's not as good as it used to seem, or how we remembered it being.

I think that no matter what game you play, this sensation is always going to happen. Take chess for example: there's so many openings to play, literally hundreds, and yet at the highest level only a few openings are played, and each game starts to feel like you've seen it a hundred times before. Why do some people quit after playing chess for so many years? Because it just stops being fun, it starts getting repetitive, there stops being creativity in how you play the game. Chess is a great example because we know that the rules and pieces haven't changed for hundreds of years, and yet that slow process of the game getting "worse" as you play it, even for professionals, is present. I mean, that's the whole reason fischer-random-chess became a thing (comparable to all-random mode in league) and why Bobby Fischer during the end of his career played exclusively this type of chess: because the original game had become boring, and players wanted something new.

So really, if you think that League is worse than it used to be, it's probably just because you've played it for so long and you understand it to the point that you can see the game's pitfalls. I mean, of course not everything about League is perfect, and yes we should still complain about these things so that they become better, but if you think that simply switching to another more "balanced" game is going to help, you're wrong.

If you feel like league is getting boring, maybe switch to another game for while, have some fun in other games, then come back with the creative energy you built up. It will give you a whole new perspective on league or any game you play. Also, try new champions, a lot of the time they are a lot more fun than you remember them being :p

66 Comments

I Kill Commies3/28/2015, 12:13:11 AM12 votes

League is way more balanced than it was a few years ago. I honestly don't know why people feel the need to complain so much.

Åron3/28/2015, 12:32:55 AM10 votes

I think Riot is a good company that knows how to run a game. I think League is in a better state than it has been in pretty much ever, with the rise of eSports and community interaction. There are a few times where complaining is reasonable, and with the sheer amount of AFKs and toxic players it can get annoying, so I can understand why people can get annoyed.

Sammystorm3/28/2015, 5:59:55 AM4 votes

Basically people think it was better because of nostalgia.

TenSlashTen3/28/2015, 2:30:31 AM3 votes

I don't care about balance I want season 2/season 1 back. When the game was pure and champions had depth. Karma pre rework Katarina pre rework. Skarner pre rework/ Trundle pre lore/rework. Olaf pre olafing

The jungle had many choices and really any champ could do it Was fun seeing a karthus jungle or a twitch etc.

Now you cringe whenever you see something off meta because you know its just so retardedly hard to play anything that isn't a tank or chain ganker. and the exp gain has ruined any champion that requires levels to function properly ontop of the level up rework with the stats being evened out so champions that had good level 1-9 stats are now homogenized across the board so that assassins/adc';s have as much hp as you basically by level 6 its like wtf?

Art Of Solo Q3/28/2015, 3:54:15 AM3 votes

I agree 100% and yet I say those things a lot lately. Sort of, for me the big issue is the community. I have never experienced a community this bad, on any game for any platform that I have been apart of over the many years that I have been a gamer. I am definitely what you would call an experienced gamer too. Countless games my friends, countless, and yet this game is without a doubt the worst for breeding hate.

Homophobic, Racist, Sexist, and just plain ole hate. It disgusts me every time I Q up and the first thing players do involves some form of insult towards another player for little to no reason. Sure you can say its just kids or immature fools doing it on the net cause they know they can, and you would be right to an extent.

But there is something about league, something that brings out that little extra hate in people. I have no idea what it is truly, but for the past few months ive been debating leaving this game just because of the community. Easily every other game involves players raging. If not the next 10 games back to back.

Like I said, I agree with your points, its just for most players I know and probably a decent portion of the community who doesn't hate on others the problem isn't "this game is broken" nor is it "omg X champ is so op, rito so bad at balance" its the non stop and disgusting attitudes of a huge portion of this community.

I just don't understand why league has so many hateful players compared to other games. Every game has ragers and the like, but league goes to the next level.

I have never quit a game because of the community either, but league is looking like it will be the first one to force me to do so. Im tired of having to mute 1-3 players every game on average. Im tired of wishing there was a mute button in champ select. Im tired of having to be on the same team with people who clearly hate me for my Sexual Preference, Race, Sex, or whatever they deem is flawed about me. I am just tired of being forced to play with these types of players. Am I unlucky that I get these kind of players at a consistent rate? Possibly, or is it actually something about this game that encourages this type of player base? I truly do not know, but the majority of my friends have the same feelings and experiences in their solo q games. To the point most of us will wait nearly an hour to see if we can get a premade before we even play.

I don't make the treads you are talking about, but I was debating about making a tread asking riot to create a way for players who have shown positive behavior to have a much higher chance of being grouped with others like them. Other than that, it wont be much longer before I uninstall and move onto a different moba. Already signed up for Gigantics beta(and signing up for other betas just to explore more games) and like you said, new games are fun so that's probably what will happen pretty soon for me.

/Rant

Mohrb3/28/2015, 12:59:57 AM2 votes

From someone who crossgames: hearthstone and starcraft are different genres and dont replace LoL. Smite has such different controls and sloppy aiming mechanisms, it's definitively worse.

This leaves dota 2. (I dont count dota or Heroes of Newerth as they're completely outclassed by dota2... except perhaps that HoN has Nymphora.... and throwing fairies is fun!)

Advantage to LoL: get into fights sooner, tends toward longer fights, spend less time farming because creeps arent being denied, and no gold loss on death. I HATE gold loss in dota. If you fall behind early... its MUCH more difficult. The game can be decided but not end for 20 minutes if they refuse to push... because there is no surrender in dota.

Advantage to dota: supports matter a LOT more. LoL support's primary role is buying wards and staying out of the way. Dota2 supports primary role is to counter the enemy carry. CC lasts longer, buffs are more significant, debuffs are more significant... and you want your support to get some farm because a rod of atros and an ult booster on most supports can make all the difference. Skill combos are also more significant because a -well played- character will outperform a better farmed character. Couriers are nice. Dont have to unlock champions. Nerfs and buffs are made in smaller steps... kit changes are very rare. And characters synergize more significantly... dark seer/riki or jugg/crystal maiden or pudge/tech or keeper/zues... certain characters will synergize amazingly. WHAT you pick matters... not just adc/support bot. Different supports play very differently.

But the game winner is that in dota, there is no meta. You will never get in an argument in dota about who gets top vs. Bot. You wont be called a troll for pugna top vs. Mid vs. Bottom. You dont HAVE to have a jungle... but you can! A few people have required items (phantom lancer must have diffusal blade and ogre magi must have ult booster)... but team comp diversity is encouraged in dota... and beat with a stick in LoL. In LoL, this character is a JUNGLE. Playing bot is trolling... that character is SUPPORT! asking for mid=report.

LoL is still fun... but this set in stone meta is bullshit.

SEKAI3/28/2015, 7:18:00 AM1 votes

the thing about LoL is that,

It started with the game being unbalanced in the first place, then it became worse and worse over the seasons. To the point that season 2 which was NOT anywhere near the balance line is now hailed as the most fun season in League's history, when this happens, you know exactly what is wrong with the game.

What is wrong? Almost everything they have done after season 2.

Why? Because they are introducing more and more problems as patches go on while the initial problems are barely getting fixed.

And let's just temporarily forget about that cesspool called pro scene for a moment, I don't wanna talk about that.

So yer these are why.