Seriously, we need US East Servers

HandDa··43 votes·2,195 views

I am just a regular east coast player. But I bet there are many more here having the similar thoughts.

To my best knowledge, all the major cable Internet service providers in east coast are barely able to provide supbar connectivities to AWS's west coast servers. For years, i as many other east coast players, had to suffer from the 100+ ms latency in LOL. Although it's still playable, yet it prevents players to play the competitive level they wanted to. It's by no mean a good user experiences.

Given LOL is on top of AWS, it should be relatively easy to establish new US east servers, right?

Riot, can you pull this off for all east coast users?

35 Comments

ColinFly7 votes

Why not just have centralized servers somewhere in the midwest? I know it would feel like a waste to basically scrap your west coast serverbase, but having a centrally located source of connectivity would benefit literally everybody.

Proelium1 votes

100% agree. This would be the best solution.

Except...

That would most likely require people to move out of California. :/

Vellich0r5 votes

I enjoy league and have found that playing under 70 ping I feel almost invincible (I know because sometimes I randomly get decent ping) but living on the east coast i have to deal with 110+ regularly. It's just not very fun to know what it feels like to play with great ping (where I probably could hit plat-diamond with some effort) but have to deal with subpar ping (where I dont think i could make it past gold without trying REALLY REALLY hard and getting darn lucky)

Angry Monster2 votes

considering TSM was an east coast team with east coast ping, before LCS, your ping is not your issue. Skill is

Vellich0r4 votes

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ip1QYq3XN10/Udnv1X_JFrI/AAAAAAAAII4/PA3BbQ_iB30/s640/elo.png

In reference to that I defer you to this wonderful graph showing the correlation between rank and ping. Also, note that I stated that I have played with great ping (70 if i remember) and was nearly unstoppable (or so it felt for the like 10 games i got to play at that ping) Skill is a large part of the game, but ping is more often than not a huge factor in how far a player can make it. (this is where I say SCIENCE BITCH in reference to my superior argument consisting of facts that are not at all related to science but are still factual and smexy, and thus win over your puny attempt at belittling me :D )

Proelium4 votes

Ping has been getting worse and worse. "East Coast Ping" 4 years ago wasn't as bad as today.

Midwest ping WAS 50 or so. Sometimes less. Now it hovers around 100 ish for many. Same thing happened to the East Coast but worse.

John Berserk3 votes

Splitting NA into two serves (NA West and NA East) would split the playerbase by quite a bit. This wouldn't be like EUW and EUNE, where the regions/countries speak different languages anyway, nearly EVERYONE in both NA West and NA East would speak English, so while this would indeed solve some latency issues, it would cause other issues, like separation of friends and ranked teammates and such. It's not as simple a solution as you think.

UnicornViolet2 votes

And yet every other competitive game in the world seems to manage this fine. I currently play with EU friends on NA servers. The same thing would happen. If you didn't mind the ping, then you could continue to play on your West Coast server. If you wanted to be competitive, then you could play on your home server. Just because there are East Coast servers doesn't mean Riot is going to force you to play on them. So this is kind of an irrelevant complaint.

And after a few months no one is going to care about the split anyways.

John Berserk2 votes

I'm not worried about being forced into one of the servers, I'm worried about being split from my friends. Having to make a whole new account just to play with my friends would be terrible, as would having my friends make a whole new account just to play with me.

UnicornViolet3 votes

I think one of the reasons you don't see this get more forum attention is because there's that other 50% of the NA community who obviously doesn't want East Coast servers. NGL, if I lived in California I would love taking advantage of the freelo from superior ping rates over my Eastern competition.

Glamazon2 votes

Typically I average around 70ms. I agree it's annoying seeing people with a 50+ ms advantage.

Angry Monster1 votes

no one gets a below 20 to riot severs. I live in LA and i get 45 to 60. You do not know what you are talking about and you can not see what other people's pings are.

Onegarion3 votes

Now the problem I have with not having east coast servers is that I personally HAD an 80 ping before season 4. Now its at least 105. Now you say thats not to bad....well the problem really lies with the Latin American North servers. Recently during one of the down times of the NA server or where my ping was a minimum of 200 for a very brief second before going over 500 I searched for answers and what I found was LANS (yea that is a run-on, but idc lol). The ping on that server was 40........40!

Thats ridiculous that if by simply switching servers that I can have that drastic of a change. Going from NA to EUW on a normal day yields a +20 ping when going to EUW from NA, but at the time was 100% more stable. So its hard to really completely defend the case when there is apparently an "east coast" server already, but it would send a vast number of players someplace they probably shouldn't be.

Personally I don't think the ping is that huge of a problem. Watching Nightblue3 playing he has a ping similar to my own so I know that its clearly not the ping that causes bad plays or misclicks since if he can be a challenger lvl player and live in the midwest then its clearly not right to say that all the best players are on the west coast. If anything I would argue that playing with a higher ping actually shows more skill overall.

My real problem has stemmed from the lack of stability that has plagued the NA servers recently when others have provided better reliability to me personally an East coast player. I personally would like to see something done since most of the players I've seen recently having problems have been east coast players as a whole, not exclusively though. I just feel like this may help make the connection more stable for those on the east than those on the west.

MDIq0DlTY81 votes

I've seen 10 ping so....

Glamazon1 votes

Riot used to have the ping of other players visible in the load screen. I'm not blind. Nice try though.

Wasabo2 votes

Could people on the West Coast still play with people on the East? Are you saying we need a new region, like splitting NA into 3 (or 4) parts? (Canada, Mexico, US West, US East) or is this just technical new servers that won't affect regions?

Angry Monster2 votes

why dont you guys go bitch to your cable provider and demand better routing and connectivity? I find it funny that you think the only solution is that riot needs to move. Why not have the internet providers actually make changes on the system?

Fleuret4 votes

One war is easier to win then the other.

Angry Monster2 votes

You are not winning a war only a battle. The war is about everyones connection to all game servers from any company.

You have a narrow and small view. Have fun fighting every time til you see the bigger picture.

Enders Jehuty5 votes

A Red has made it clear that it's physically impossible for an individual to have less than 100 ping from NY to California due to distance.

You can't blame the ISP's. Gotta blame Riot for keeping their servers for an entire continent on the far end side of the continent.

Angry Monster2 votes

LOL, then they lied.

Its not impossible, Its not currently possible cause hubs are not upgrading their tech. Plenty of people have claimed 80 ping from the east coast.

You got to love when people like you blindly believe anything a red says.

UnicornViolet2 votes

Except my MS / Ping is fine with every other game in the world. If my internet is to blame, how does this make sense? Do you really think that every single person on the East Coast has a bad internet connection?

Angry Monster2 votes

Like CS? where you are connecting to small servers?

Or maybe WoW where you do not have to have high reflexes.

Most games with universal servers use client side for input and view. In a high competitive game you can not do that. The tech we are talking about is completely different.

breezyplanter2 votes

Agreed. I love East

Proelium2 votes

"We're working on it"

"This is important to us"

"Trust us we aren't ignoring you!"

"We aren't ready to talk about it yet, stick with us!"

"Soon!"

All things I heard 3 years ago from the Lore department... then they came through far far too late and far far too weak...

precambria2 votes

I live in Toronto Canada and I used to get 32 ms, now I am lucky if it is under 110 (80 at best) which in comparison to under 70 is crippling. I used to consider myself pretty good at this game now I can't even play half of the time, if I log in and see 140 it's time to play a different game. I thought this must be my ISP it must but on further investigation that is 100% not the case especially considering I did have good ping before and nothing at all on my end has changed.

Anyways QQ I'm pissed because I have played LoL since closed beta and spend considerable amounts of time and money on something I can no longer enjoy for reasons that are beyond my control. I like to believe that if they could fix this they would which leads me to believe they can't so I should just not bother.

Yes I have tried most of the possible fix advice with no results.

nyXdeGIhok1 votes

yes

Mandaari1 votes

A couple months ago I moved from NH to CA. Went from 110+ ms to 20 ms.

Iamboringtoo1 votes

Bump

EQLjvD6dn71 votes

Why hasn't this been done already?

Feral Heart1 votes

eAST COST SERVERS WHERe!

Eleshakai1 votes

Honestly, Riot's intended solution is far better than simply having two sets of servers. For those who aren't aware, Riot is currently in the process of working with ISPs to build a giant backbone that will be predominately - if not exclusively - for LoL traffic. This should eliminate most of the cause of East Coast ping since distance is, although most people won't believe me, NOT the primary cause.

Sukishoo1 votes

I'd love it if they split the server up. Would be so much nicer.

Impossum1 votes

Agreed.

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