Legal Legend: Interview with a League-playing law professor!

RiotRiot Silog·6/16/2015, 5:33:22 PM·105 votes·89,247 views
It's not every day you run up against a law professor in solo queue, but we found one! Tom Griffith is a professor of Law at the University of Southern California Law School and has been involved in gaming for nearly his entire life. I spoke to him about his lifelong passion for games of all kinds -- and how they can connect to studying and practicing law.

Can you tell us a bit about the origins and development of your gaming career?

As a young child and a teenager my favorite free time activities were games and sports. Like many LOL players, I am a lifetime gamer but, unlike the typical player, I have been playing games for over 60 years. I played Monopoly as a young child, played in a Dungeons and Dragons event hosted by Gary Gygax and, while a law student, took breaks from my studies to play Defender and Galaxian.

After graduating from Brown University and receiving a Master of Arts in Teaching degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education, I taught high school social studies for 7 years where I coached the Women’s Basketball and Volleyball teams. I incorporated a business simulation game in my Economics class. During these years I played Bridge, board games and lots of sports. I also played Dungeons and Dragons.

After seven years, I left high school teaching to attend Harvard Law School, where I still found time for an occasional D&D game or trip to the arcade.

After law school I practiced law in Boston for two years—very low gaming years—before leaving the firm for the University of Southern California Law School where I remain today.

Over my thirty years as a law professor I have continued to play a variety of games including Magic (one trip to the Pro Tour), D&D and a variety of board and miniatures games. And like most gamers, I have had video game systems from Mattel’s Intellivision to the PS4. My wife is a moderate gamer and we play console RPGs like Fallout or Dragon Age.

For me, being a law professor is the best job in the world—I love teaching. And it is fun to talk with the occasional student about gaming.

How did you get into League of Legends?

I was unaware of LOL until I saw a poster advertising the Season Two World Championship at USC’s Galen Center, which is located only a couple of blocks from my office.

On the first day of the LOL world championship, I was amazed at the thousands of gamers lined up outside the Galen Center. I was even more astonished to learn that they were lined up not to play, but just to watch the game. So I downloaded the game, played the tutorials and many AI games and then entered Normal games. Despite lacking the quick reflexes of youth, I greatly enjoyed the game. The goals and structure of the game were simple, but there was tremendous strategic depth and variety. I particularly liked the team concept and the differentiated roles.

In addition to the game itself I was impressed by the LOL community. The quality of community-produced artwork, music and cosplay produced are remarkable as is the enthusiasm of LOL fans at live events. I also appreciated Riot Games's effort to encourage the participation of women by featuring female LOL players in their community showcases and elsewhere.

What kept you playing all kinds of games for so long? Do you feel like you got something out of your gaming habit besides simply entertainment?

The key reason is fun, but successful gaming develops analytical skills. For games like D&D and LOL the ability to work with others also is important.

I also like the social aspect of gaming. I would much prefer to spend an evening playing games with friends than going out to dinner and chatting. It is more active and challenging.

I am also interested in the cultural aspect of gaming. It is important, for example, for games to avoid racist and sexist stereotypes. I have been pleased to note the incorporation of same-sex relationships in games like Elder Scrolls: Skyrim and Dragon Age: Inquisition.

Any words of advice for student-gamers looking to balance the two (or maybe find opportunities for their studies to benefit from their gaming habit)?

It is important to limit your gaming time both as a student and as a legal professional. During the school year I typically play one game of LOL each night after I have finished my class preparation and other work. One attractive feature of LOL is the ability to finish a game in about 30 minutes. And unlike some online RPGs, there is no need to log many hours of play in order to keep up with your friends. Law study and practice can be stressful but while you are battling on the Rift, you can put that stress aside.

Do you ever come across any particular player/role archetypes (mid laners, tanks, that annoying guy who pings way too often) and think, 'that person would be well suited to a career in law'?

The LOL players who would make the best lawyers are those who take the lead in communicating effectively with their teammates. Some of the same skills that are important in legal work also are relevant to League play. These include picking a style which fits your skill set, researching successful strategies and identifying and correcting your mistakes.

In both legal work and LOL, teamwork is critical. And both LOL players and attorneys need to have wards placed against unexpected developments. Finally, even in a large city the legal community is small and maintaining a reputation for honesty and reliability is critical. League players who rage at teammates or who go AFK are unlikely to be successful attorneys.

Know of any other community members doing rad things IRL? Let us know in the comments below!

242 Comments

Aquara6/16/2015, 6:10:58 PM163 votes

I found this really interesting to see how many different types of people play league, and that someone can balance a professional career and still game on occasion. Those people who are complaining that this guy isn't important completely missed the point, it's not about him being famous or him being exceptional at league. It's about showing the diversity in the player base and that even people we wouldn't expect (someone who is older with a highly respected career) can still enjoy a game that most people would say are for idle youth.

adobecredithours6/16/2015, 6:15:54 PM62 votes

Logged in just to downvote some of the jerks who posted earlier. I find it very respectable that people in older generations can still find joy in games that a lot of younger people play. It's encouraging to see that someone can work in a highly important law career and still balance a passion for gaming. Props to this guy, I like hearing these kinds of stories.

RiotRiot Silog6/16/2015, 6:38:54 PM37 votes

Gotta admit I was starstruck hearing about the Gary Gygax anecdote. Dude was co-creator on Dungeons and Dragons!

JotaGuinsoo6/16/2015, 6:15:00 PM29 votes

I'd bet many gamers in their 20s as me, have experienced the same things he did in gaming; from tabletop games to League going through D&D, Magic and lots of other things just way more fast-paced. It's really good hearing this from a professor, how social games and videogames can join people and generations. More interviews from unexpected League playes pls!

ps: you rock. I want a father like this.

ást6/16/2015, 6:10:30 PM27 votes

So..... how do I go about suing Sejuani for being op?

Garurumon6/16/2015, 5:55:30 PM19 votes

Honestly quite interesting. I too would love to keep games as a hobby for life, even when it's least appropriate.

Adeelah6/16/2015, 10:58:14 PM18 votes

This is Tom Griffith. Thanks for all your supportive and interesting comments. If you have any questions, I would be happy to answer them.

I AM ZIAN6/16/2015, 6:12:22 PM15 votes

This is awesome! The age diversity and profession of the League player never fails to enlighten me.

Rolldembones6/16/2015, 7:07:16 PM14 votes

Du-dududududu-du-dududududu-dududududududu-awaka-waka-waka-waka...

We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

George Bernard Shaw

Love Cook6/16/2015, 9:39:19 PM11 votes

I like how he says the community accepting everything is a good thing. ALL MY LONG HOURS OF DRAWING LOL HENTAI STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ACCEPTED. RIOT ACCEPT MY ARTWORK. Amumu

Sirin Gioro6/16/2015, 7:58:21 PM6 votes

this thread inspires me to be a lawyer someday since he said good lawyers communicate with their team effectively and ward a lot (◡‿◡✿)

Little Spearow6/16/2015, 7:19:31 PM6 votes

As a LOL player and prospective law student, I found this very informative and reassuring. I have been playing games my whole life, and I had thought I was going to have to cut them out of my life in order to stay afloat. Great post!

Talidus6/17/2015, 3:29:21 AM6 votes

All things considered 67 million people regularly play LOL worldwide. Yet, gaming is still considered a faux-pas amongst professionals and "adults". Im a Financial Advisor for a Fortune 100 company and have 6 securities and insurance licenses, I deal with millions of investment dollars annually, I give advice to high profile individuals to include military Generals, federal agency employees, special operations ODAs, SEALs and even CFA analysts... yeah I'm a gamer. I do not know why its hard to consider that you can have a professional and demanding life and still play a little League. I've been gaming since D&D 1st ed., Ultima on C64, MUDs, been a part of server firsts and globally ranked with guilds from Everquest to World of Warcraft over the last 25 years.

This last montage Riot put together, "League and Love: A documentary", I applaud the diversity of the lives presented in the short film and appreciate each of their contribution to the lives of their friends and the League community but, there are also those of us who aren't different. As a matter of fact, many of us are just normal, professionals, parents, fathers, mothers. We look and do everything you do. It's when I tell a colleague that I dream to play gaming at a professional level and wear a Teemo hat at the next E3 event and now I went from a respected, wise, intelligent adviser to high profile individuals to some sort of stigmatic armpit of society. I have a couple friends at work that also game and we have to talk about it in hushed corners like were conspiring.

Hopefully when my boy becomes a young man if he has a passion for gaming like his dad does, he won't have to pay the social cost but, maybe even make a career out of it. There I would be, his dad, with a styrofoam #1 FAN finger screaming emphatically, that's my boy! .. with my Teemo hat of course.

Mewwt6/16/2015, 9:48:56 PM5 votes

It makes me sad when I see all the rude people and disrespect. "no one cares" "why should i care" "can we get news like this only if its someone importent"

If you don't want to read it. Do not read it. Leave, and don't be rude in the comments.

XenexisVenalisII6/17/2015, 12:53:35 AM4 votes

Reading this really made me think about the way I have been playing and question my behavior in some of my LoL games. Sometimes I just go through a game without saying anything or pinging to my teammates because they seem to know what they are doing, but now I realize that it doesn't matter if they know what they are doing or not. Communicating with the team despite them knowing what to do can help with a person's ability to cooperate with others later on. From what this professor has said, I've realized that even people with big and important jobs and careers could be playing League alongside others who could be going into 6th grade. On the Rift suddenly the ages and everything are set aside and the players are given the ability to work as a team despite their differences. After reading this, I realize that League is more than just a game. It's a place where we can all be together as equals.

Realtor6/17/2015, 2:30:07 AM4 votes

I'm a real estate agent in real life (yes it's also my summoner name, "Realtor") and have found my time on League also beneficial to getting clients actually. As a long-time gamer since i was a child, League is my current passion, and I'm fortunate that my schedule is flexible enough for me to play pretty consistently. But I've gotten lots of business from people i know who play League. I'm even closing a sale of a house from a League friend this week! We would never have re-connected if it weren't for League. I've even gotten some referrals from folks simply because I met them on League, or helped people out by referring them to quality agents where they lived. The friends i know and have met on League of Legends has really been great for fun online and business offline too!

Morthid6/17/2015, 7:15:44 AM4 votes

It's why I love league. Any given night i can find myself teamed up with a 22 year old computer programmer from Cali, a 13 year old 8th grader from houston, a 26 year old home maker, myself a 35 year old accountant father of 4, and someone from another continent. The community is solid and diverse.

TohighToplay19746/17/2015, 2:20:53 AM4 votes

I'm 40 years old, a veteran of Iraq 1, Bosnia, and Haiti conflicts, a former accountant, and now an ARCgis mapper, and I also found this article very interesting. Specifically, the last paragraph tells volumes. You can tell a lot about a person, and speculate about where in society they may fit in, in regards to their future by the way they act. When your team starts to get behind, do they start with the blame game? Do they rage quit? Or do they try to figure out paths to overcome, or learn for the next round? I love league, and watch all the NA and Euro pro matches. I must admit, the champion selection introduction captivates me as much as the actual games. Pics and counters.

DLeetion6/17/2015, 6:21:19 AM3 votes

The title of this article kills me

obfusk8n6/17/2015, 4:18:26 AM3 votes

I was thrilled to read this article. I am a partner at a mid-sized San Diego law firm. I went to law school in my 40s after a career in local politics. Now I specialize in governmental ethics (pretty nerdy stuff, even for a lawyer). And I am a gamer. I started playing when my daughter was an undergrad, I have gone to the studio to watch the pros live in LA, and I have a Teemo hat. Thanks for featuring an accomplished professional who just happens to blow off steam playing League. It is a great diversion from my day job. And remember kids, when you're out there playing League you never know what the summoner next to you does during the day. I'll tell you this, as a lawyer and former politico, you CANNOT out-toxic real life opponents I face.

Timkillz6/16/2015, 9:37:56 PM2 votes

I'm sorry but hearing about a "casual gamer" no matter the profession doesn't impress me. This isn't a unique story it's just some random guy who just happens to be a lawyer playing league. This could be anyone, sorry rather hear about a guy who innovate League of legends strategy or find interesting new ways to introduce someone to this game not someone who just likes gaming and plays it casually. There's no reason for me or to a good amount of the player base to find this unique or interesting because this could be anybody. The only reason the people find this even sort of interesting is because he's a lawyer.

Teeotha6/16/2015, 6:04:33 PM2 votes

can we get news like this only if its someone importent

NewMk6/16/2015, 6:16:24 PM

Lol you old you should like go to those homes for old people xd