@Riot, I am really starting to question...

Jingerbeardman··1 votes·368 views

So I have really started questioning the reliability not of Riots decision making but of the Public Beta Environment and those that have PBE accounts. Are these players that are fortunate to receive access even testing what gets put on the PBE? Are they even capable of giving any sort of decent, reliable, and educated feedback? I am beginning to think they are not. While I feel that the new way people get to gain access to the PBE is a much nicer and far more fair system, I am not so sure it is working out the way they had hoped.

I began questioning this, not to scratch at healing wounds, when the Skarner rework hit live. these feelings eventually subsided after I realized that, yes, his rework was in fact viable and that he only needed a little extra love and attention to clean everything up nicely. My concerns returned with this latest patch and the release of Feral Flare to live. This single item now dominates the jungle scene. Any auto-attack/on hit jungle champ are capable of using it and dominating their opponents. I have nearly run the full gambit of champs that benefit from Feral Flare the most, even some that really shouldn't but do, and have cleaned up in nearly every game. I used to main jungle but have recently moved to the top lane because I did not enjoy some of the changes that happened to jungle items at the start of season 4, especially wriggles lantern. When I found out that wriggles was getting a much needed update I started looking forward to trying it out. I was reluctant at first until I started seeing it on my teammates and opponents. Champs that formerly were extremely niche picks began to surface as dominant and superior picks. That is when I decided to take a look at this Feral Flare for myself. At first I was thrilled with it, but quickly after I started trying it on different champs that I wasn't very good with did I notice the problem. This thing is way to fricking powerful.

This brings me back to my original question of if the players that have PBE access are really worthy of that privilege. It is hard to believe that Feral Flare made it to live in its current state. How did it not throw red flags across the board that it was still to strong. Are the players on the PBE even thinking about the balance and health of the game? Or are they just giddy to be granted PBE access to the point where they simply say, that's cool, I like it, it is good the way it is. Hopefully it is not that they realize certain changes are unbalanced and simply not say anything so it gets onto live that way.

I realize that this might seem like the rantings of someone jealous that does not have access to the PBE. Truth is it would be cool to get that chance, I know I can give strong and reliable feedback, but it doesn't bother me that I do not have access either. What bugs me is that it seems like many of the people that have received PBE accounts do not realize that they are expected to give constructive feedback. Instead, it feels/looks like, they just think of it as some elite player community they get to be a part of. It is one thing to help catch bugs and report them, which is an extremely important part of the PBE, but they also want good educated feedback. I really do not see enough of that when I read the threads, posts, and replies on the PBE forums.

9 Comments

Kikirino1 votes

I got on the PBE but refuse to use it anymore. Almost everyone on there is only there because you get all champions and skins on that account. They couldn't care less about actually Beta Testing and making Riot's patches more of a success. But I am pretty damn sure Riot has they own internal Private Beta Group that helps do what these 'Beta Tester' are supposed to do. At least I hope they do...

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Well I guess I'm in your minority, I try to test as much new content as I can, but I simply can't divide my little free time between that and live to test everything I want to. Mostly I just find bugs, and there are opinions stated that reflect the concerns of the later live playerbase, but when it comes down to it PBE =/= live. The small community, lack of truly competitive play and constant but inevitable bugs make getting a foreseeable trend very difficult for an individual.

Jingerbeardman1 votes

I disagree, if you know enough about the game it is possible to recognize what is healthy and unhealthy for the game. It takes quite a while to gain this knowledge and a great deal of passion for the game, something most players with PBE accounts don't seem to have.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

I agree it isn't impossible but it's unrealistic to expect that out of volunteers. The PBE accomplishes it's job through a shotgun effect of volume use and participants are chosen based on their patterns of exploration. Riot needs people to wander and experience every part of the game in the PBE, but that isn't expected out of every tester. I'll be the first to admit I myself am a little (okay, a lot) passionate about this game, but I'll never be able to test every aspect of the PBE. I actually used feral flare a lot myself in the PBE and didn't run into any "this is OP" moments simply because the games weren't competitive, as everyone was trying out the Rengar rework, Void Fizz and Atlantean Syndra. If the competitive elements are not there as much as live certain situations and hyperbolic cases are simply not commonly encountered.

The PBE testers on average can always be better, I completely agree, but I vehemently disagree that most of the PBE testers are not doing their job.

Jingerbeardman1 votes

I didn't say none of them were doing their job. I know for a fact from reading posts that some really are great PBE assets. You are right that to a certain extent PBE is a place to explore and not necessarily be competitive, but that doesn't often make that much of a difference. It is about knowing how much damage can be put out with certain items. When you can read the game in both numbers and experience/feel it is possible to catch the unhealthy elements.

I recognize that the level of competitiveness is not high on the PBE but it is still important to think about that while testing. You have to ask a bunch of questions to yourself when you test things. If i offended you by saying most PBE players do not have much passion for the game I am sorry. Most is not all though :P

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

oh no, I make it a concerted effort never to be offended on the forums no worries! Apologies if I sounded like I was peeved, was not my intention. =)

Hyrum Graff1 votes

->Says he does't have much free time.
->Replies to every CB post.

Wait I get it, you meant free time after you're done browsing CB ;)

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

lol, okay, to correct myself, my very little intervals of 40+ min. I have WAAAAAAAAY too many stints of 5-10 minutes. You ever render a 3d model for a metal casting? Takes a while....and I have my computer.....but I have to be ready to do the next step asap.....

Jingerbeardman1 votes

they do have internal testers but the amount they have to test is far greater than what is put on the PBE. They dont have the luxury to really seek out trends which is what the PBE is for.

I dont even see what the huge thrill people get by having all skins and champs. I have all the champs, all the runes, and a fair amount of skins... doesn't mean that makes me a better player for having them. Heck once a skin has its bugs worked out id just disable it on the PBE since further testing on it isnt all that necessary. Keep the PBE focused on what needs testing and not on just having a fully unlocked account. Even though the majority lose their account after their testing period is over, at least that way they couldn't get sidetracked on tested content.

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