Finally something good coming out of the Lore Team

GreyXpelliarmus·9/16/2014, 7:56:12 PM·22 votes·10,058 views

All the Azir-Sivir material is awesome, I love it. They don't live in the institute of war 24/7 and this story is showing that great stuff can still happen. Do I say thanks or congrats? I don't know but well done guys, you did something right

I'll edit this right away, I meant great things can be done with this lore/old lore

67 Comments

Helmight9/17/2014, 2:59:32 AM18 votes

I honestly feel like the story is a bit cliched, tbh. And there are a lot of things about it that don't make sense, though perhaps that's because we don't have the full picture yet.

  • Where's Nasus? Did he just up and leave the tomb after it was sealed? Does he have no idea that Renekton and Xerath are now free?
  • Why did Renekton go insane, but Xerath didn't? Seemed to me like they'd kick the shit out of each other while sealed in the tomb
  • Cassiopeia is a diplomat and a deceiver, not an assassin. Du Couteau the Eldest might have stuck Sivir with a sword, but it makes no sense that Cass would have tried
  • Azir randomly ascends because he saves his great-great-great granddaughter. Just why. -Because Azir ascends, the entirety of Shurima comes back to life. Again, why.
  • Sivir is now a Disney princess. Next video will probably have her singing a musical number about how she wants more from life.

I'm hoping things get better as the Riot lore team adjusts to their new environment, but right now everything smacks of being thrown together a bit sloppily.

MajorPain99/16/2014, 11:36:06 PM17 votes

Meh the story is rather lackluster to me. Maybe it's the script, but it's to.cheesey with things like the blade is the key and she betrays sivir

Sneak Dog9/17/2014, 10:29:48 AM14 votes

The animated part was way better than the glassthingy part. I just hope they will address Xeraths side of the story before or at the end of the event. Otherwise he's stuck with a generic villain story that isn't quite Xerath ahem Trundle ahem.

It does seem that the format is really shortening things. I feel like things are missing due to it being a video, similar to a movie adaptation of a book, but without a book to find the details in. The movie is coherent, but everything from the book that wasn't needed to make the movie coherent was left out. Perhaps it's because all the things don't feel very impactful (Sivir almost died, Azir ascended, the city just rose from the sands), lack of build-up perhaps? Hard to say for me. At least things are happening, unlike Freljord.

(off-topic, I do hope Riot will go back to Trundle, his in-game voice-overs are entirely unlike his old lore and it makes me unable to fully delve into this new lore)

RiotRiotJaredan9/17/2014, 8:10:46 AM14 votes

All the Azir-Sivir material is awesome, I love it. They don't live in the institute of war 24/7 and this story is showing that great stuff can still happen. Do I say thanks or congrats? I don't know but well done guys, you did something right

I'll edit this right away, I meant great things can be done with this lore/old lore

Cheers, I'm glad you enjoyed it. This is just the first step of our renewed journey through Runeterra, we hope you'll enjoy what's to come.

Calderweiss9/17/2014, 2:05:51 PM9 votes

I just wish it explained why things happened? Why did Azir awakening suddenly lead to him being a bird god? Why all the deus ex machinas to tell the story? She just happens to be a descendant, have the key, and bleed onto the right seal. There just happens to be a water of life pool. Why would any of that lead to armies being awakened and his empire reforming itself?

The cinematic was very VERY good looking, but the narration felt way too blunt and awkward, and I still don't know why things happened the way they did.

I'm afraid that this is going to become the standard, that the lore is being dumbed down with more deus ex machinas and black/white heroes and villains.

Starlighte9/17/2014, 9:56:25 AM8 votes

All the Azir-Sivir material is awesome, I love it. They don't live in the institute of war 24/7 and this story is showing that great stuff can still happen. Do I say thanks or congrats? I don't know but well done guys, you did something right

I'll edit this right away, I meant great things can be done with this lore/old lore

I think it is funny that Jaredan missed the emphasized part of your post. It is easy for him/her to come here and cherry-pick the easy pro-riot statements, instead of diving into the vast waters of how much people hate this change in lore. Just saying though, it may seem like a good idea to Riot to put their head in the sand but this does nothing to build trust in their lore direction. If they want us to trust them, they should actually consider NOT going through with the proposed changes of divorcing the world from the game.

But again, Riot won't address any of these concerns, they'll shrug them off and focus on "positive" statements like these.

Even though the OP's point was that this was the first thing they've done right recently.

Poppin Boppin9/17/2014, 1:00:38 AM7 votes

Yeah, I'm liking the direction the lore is taking. I still feel sad over the fact that summoners are no longer a thing so I feel a bit disconnected from the game but I look forward as to what will come in the future. My only worry is whether that is going to be in the near future or if they are going to make us wait 6 months for something like this again.

TerraRising9/17/2014, 4:57:18 PM7 votes

I wouldn't call it "good." More like "something."

Criticisms:

  1. Sivir and Cassiopeia are transformed into Lara Croft and Jacqueline Natla (Tomb Raider).
  2. The traps that destroy Sivir's army is straight out of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."
  3. The flowing blood was ripped out of God of War 2.
  4. The final cinematic felt like something out of a PlayStation RPG cutscene.
  5. Nasus's voice actor is awesome.
  6. Xerath has been transformed from an interesting character into a clone of Jafar from Aladdin.
  7. The story is, once again, incomplete. Azir ascends into "Armored Bird Guy" and then... end. The ending of "The Sopranos" told us more.

I just hope it's not going to be another 15 months before the next thing from Narrative.

NVDax9/17/2014, 6:43:26 PM7 votes

So... unlike the shadow isles, and the freljord event... Is anything going to come out of this? Or are we just going to ignore everything that happened again, and move onto the next event? What about the longer lores that would be on the website? When will we get that? A couple of sentences =/= good lore. Especially Skarner, who's lost his entire identity.

Vutenheim9/16/2014, 11:01:09 PM7 votes

I always thought them living 24/7 at the Institute silly. I always considered it that they signed up to be a champion and when a match was coordinated a summons/message was sent requesting them to the Institute for the match.

The6DollarMan9/16/2014, 10:11:24 PM5 votes

They have done a good job with the video content, so I'll give them that. However, the in-game lore is still those silly three-sentence character summaries. I thought they were supposed to ship the full stories with the Azir release...

Pryotra9/17/2014, 6:10:14 AM5 votes

Nah.

I'm playing champs like Blitz or Anivia in a Shurima event. I'm not emotionally or intellectually involved in any way, so until they manage to make me feel like its fun or wonderful to play thematically, the story is like an excuse to give us a featured game mode or a champion.

Overall, this makes it feel like one is waiting on the other, and overall its a great for fun gamemode, but after the 5 wins and the 1 flawless (for a total of 5 wins minimum), I don't feel like I will stick with this mode. I don't particularly like the "Free-for-all-but-not-really" game mode, where certain champs feel blegh and other champs feel pants on head easy. It holds killing power and speed above all things, and takes alot of the thought out of the game.

Argue with me if you will, but frankly this whole event is a failure. I'm not involved even remotely. I mean, at least frejlord got me playing ashe for a little bit, now I just play whatever, not caring for the story that simply does not live up to the hype or the wait. Yes, I have seen/heard/kept up with the story, I'm just not impressed or invested like past lore events.

AbiwonKenabi9/16/2014, 10:59:12 PM4 votes

Eh, I don't see why they needed to live at the Institute of War 24/7 before this whole lore change.

That said, I was rather impressed by the Shurima content they released. I hope that even better things are on the horizon. :)

KairosCrow9/18/2014, 2:08:34 AM4 votes

The actual story was great, but I found myself intensely disliking the writing style used in the video. It lacked a lot of the flow and eloquence I'd expect from Nasus' narration.

sp4419/17/2014, 7:23:17 PM3 votes

Honestly, I just hope that they find a way to convey little things as well. A thing that I REALLY liked in the JoJ (I know, Riot hates that with all fibers in it's body, but bear with me) was that it related the big things, like the Kalamanda debacle and the revolt of Ionia, to the small things, like Annie being a poster girl for a tooth paste brand. You might say that it's stupid, I say that it makes the world more believable. I LIKE when stupid things happen in a fictional universe, because guess what, that's what happens in the real world. Yeah, I like hearing about how Azir got his empire back, but I'd also like to learn about a bar fight that Gangplank got into because Gragas wouldn't show him the proper respect, or how Gnar caused all sorts of trouble in Bramble City, or Lulu pretending to be Veigar's evil minion and getting in all sorts of "evil schemes" with him, or Jayce getting ran over by an army of bowling balls, or Jayce being forced to smear butter all over Urgot, or Jayce stepping on a lego brick in a rake factory.

Ark Angel HFB9/19/2014, 2:45:31 AM3 votes

I'm more annoying that no one at riot realized that by doing such a massive retcon... we can trust none of the new lore to stay once it become inconvenient to tell stories.

On top of that, it showed a complete lack of creative thinking.

AND on top of that it removed the players from the lore and the lore from the game.

I play League of Legends... Not Hero's of Runeterra.

In short what the "New" lore accomplished was to destroy the last bit of trust I have in Riot's lore team, as well as my connection to the game.

Pro tip, Games are interactive medians... maybe try to build the story around that.

You know if you game is a 5 v 5 mobo maybe tell a story about why 5 random people would be fighting 5 other random people...

Oh wait you did and then threw it away without trying.

FoolishGnome9/17/2014, 11:48:26 PM2 votes

Since this post seems as good as any to ask a lore related question: With the new Shurima event, it seems that the Shurima desert is much larger (or at least it implies that it is much larger) than what is on the Runeterra map. With the "reboot" of the lore, does this mean that the landmass of Runeterra will also be getting an update? I would LOVE to see an updated and better scaled map of the League Universe!!!!!