"Positive" people are allowed to troll via voting No to surrenders

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that a surrender vote was one person deciding, not a collective vote of five people.

And yes, by your logic there is something "negative" people can get away with. Voting "yes" to surrenders and continuing to spam it even though every vote goes 1:4.

You just don't understand positive people. We are not trolling by voting no to FF attempts. Too many people want to ff@20 when the game is not even close to over. This game doesn't snowball out of control nearly as hard anymore, and with some positive attitudes, safe decision making, and consistent farming, A LOT of games can be turned around. I stay very positive, and I will vote to FF sometimes, I am just not ready to give up nearly as soon as a lot of the negative ragers that play this game. Something tells me that as soon as one of the other lanes in the game gets FB you are already thinking "GG FF @20 NOOB TOP LANE REPORT PLS" and that is the type of attitude that will lead to losing WAY more games then you should.

Wel theres jedi and theres sith both have there strenghts and weaknesses do you feel more like a jedi or a sith my young padawan

Maybe if they didn't call surrender when the other team is at the inner turrets. Like let the other team have their glory. Its going to take not even a minute for the match to be over anyway. :P

I only have on game in recent memory that was absolutely no doubt Lost, and that was because of an intentional feeder. Had a 4v5 yesterday that we damn near won, until our 5th came back... and fed... lol.

I won't FF unless there's someone intentionally trolling. I don't FF on AFK's as there's a chance they will come back.

Case in point: Nasus AFK http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1762781775/202703050?tab=stats We almost won this game, they couldn't take us out, we slowly pushed back - finally lost when people got caught out. Riven Trolling: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1762618086/202703050?tab=overview There was no winning this game. Riven was intentionally feeding the entire game, our Jinx was having "Connection" issues early and stood still for an 0/3/0 start - there was no coming back.

Seems like being rude to people stuck with those "adcs" is okay to do.

Back when I still played, I never surrendered. What's the point? I'll never learn how to play from behind if I don't actually do it. Surrendering just hurts my ability to improve, so I always played every game out.

If 3 people choose to surrender and 1 guy doesn't, the last guy better surrender or else he's being a huge troll. More than half the team has already decided they are done with the match... To force them to continue just means you want to punish them for losing the match for you. There is no chance anyone is like "it's okay guys, more than half our team has given up and we're way behind, but we can definitely come back!"

I've had games where I just want to AFK at fountain but 2 people don't want to surrender, so I'm forced to trudge out and pretend like I still care about the match. It's frustrating and honestly I wish Riot would consider making it a 3-2 vote for surrenders... Stop duo queue teams from trolling the remaining MAJORITY of teammates.

I don't understand how a 3 out of 5 majority vote is not enough to allow for a surrender in the first place. Even if there is a slight chance of winning still, you have 3 people who don't care anymore.