Riot clearly didn't learn a thing from what happened with Ao Shin

warpenguin555·3/23/2016, 3:40:19 PM·3 votes·611 views

If they did they wouldn't be doing this shit with solo queue. You can't tell players its coming soon and delay it repeatedly. Because you did that our trust in you is vanishing by the day and being replaced by anger because you won't stop lying. That update was just 11 Paragraphs of what we already know and stats trying to sell Dynamic queue. We're sick of being lied to. Stick to your word next time.

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pulledchicken3/23/2016, 3:44:01 PM3 votes

HA ! Welcome to Obamaiot !

promise stuff we never ever fulfill !

Jokes on u Shaco

SheikaRei3/23/2016, 3:46:01 PM3 votes

So, you're raging because they want to make sure they put out the best product they can. A product you don't need to pay for. I bet you're one of those people that rages about a company because they push back a release date to make sure they get the product up to standard. But you don't seem to care if it is a shit experience as long as you have that little piece that doesn't mean much. Seriously, they are trying to make sure everything is up to their standards before moving on. You really have no reason to complain. They are only telling it as it is. They could say "SoloQ is dead, deal with it". But, they aren't giving up on salty bastards like you, they are still working on it. Get over your elitist self.

Lost R3/23/2016, 8:53:54 PM1 votes

They never gave a release date for Ao Shin. Their initial post that "introduced" Ao Shin was an idea they just as quickly aborted, where they would share ideas and concepts they were throwing around. Why did they abort this idea? I don't know, but they never said that Ao Shin was being released soon. People started projecting that about as immediately as he was introduced. Then Ao Shin became something else during the design process (something that ALWAYS HAPPENS), and people complained when that happened.

I think this red post regarding the solo queue describes it best, regarding solo queue.

Hey guys, we know there are a lot of players who are really passionate about solo queue. We're not trying to be dishonest or dodge this topic. Radio silence on this the past couple months has been painful, we know. We hoped to come out with a direct answer to this, but working through the problems players are facing on live now (consistency around position select, queue times and matchmaking for high MMR) is taking longer than we initially expected. We did a bad job at managing expectations around this and deserve the heat we're getting around that.

That being said, solo queue does not directly address either of these problems and could suffer from the exact same problems. We'll be honest: there's definitely a world in which solo queue doesn't return, but we'd rather keep it on the table as we work through these issues before making a final decision.

Want to know the issue behind solo and dynamic queue, as well as Team Builder? There is an abysmal supply and cosmic demand for supports. In fact, those terms don't even begin to describe how dreadfully short the supply is. And to make matters worse, that supply only gets smaller and smaller with every passing day. It's a thankless, excessively overclocked role that is massively spited by a huge percentage of the community brought on by years of institutionalized maltreatment and this Ayn Randian 1v9 mentality that blights the community. Team Builder's abject failure was a herald to the wasteland of Dynamic Queue if you don't happen to be the support, but people didn't take this as a warning. They doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and quintupled down a thousand times over and didn't change their minds or tactics, and this is the result. Riot understands this (as they implied in the 6.5 patch), and they're desperately trying to create a system that works around this crisis because I'm guessing they know the people will refuse to change even if the environment demands they do. But even the best algorithm in the universe isn't going to change this starvation of a single vital role that the system looks for.