Does Elo Hell Exist?!

MasterDookie·3/5/2015, 9:17:52 AM·1 votes·1,162 views

My experience with ranked has been kind of bad. I am neither the worse or best player. I just find that in ranked queue i'm matched with some pretty bad players. I don't mean to offend anyone, but when you join a ranked queue at least know the mechanics of the game. Know when to go in pick a champ that matches the team compilation. I guess this is just a little rant. The big question is does elo hell exist? If it does how did you find your way out of it?!

23 Comments

Eleshakai3/5/2015, 2:18:45 PM6 votes

ELO Hell exists, but its not a place or a ranking... it's a state of mind. It is the state of mind where you feel that you are better than you actually are. Because you feel this way, you end up blaming other factors - such as matchmaking, or leavers, or other peoples' performance, or 'the system', etc. - for your losses in stead of trying to improve. This leads to you being stuck where you are despite being 'clearly better than this' and the impression of ELO Hell.

Oddysseas3/5/2015, 9:40:22 AM3 votes

I won't make any comments ill just say YES, end of discussion...

FloRaider423/5/2015, 9:48:20 AM2 votes

Elo Hell is only a mindset and not a real, detectable phenomenon in the ranking system, but it can still affect your performance.

Holidayyy3/5/2015, 2:13:03 PM2 votes

After being dropped to Bronze from bad placement games from high gold, I will say that the games in Bronze were an incredibly frustrating experience. Now, I won more than I lost and I am gold again but there were games where it did indeed feel as if the outcome was decided by one extremely bad player on your team and or disconnects/trolling. Losing a game strictly because of 1 player is uncommon in Gold and Plat games, its usually a combination of a lane losing, bad decisions, and team comp. However, a person getting 3 or 4 solo kills in the laning phase in Bronze is common. Not only that, it leads to the person trolling and being flamed by his team, which lowers morale)

I actually remember a game where our top laner rushed from the fountain into their jungle alone, died, used his tp to go top, died at level 2, he then went afk for about 60 seconds, walked to lane, and died again. He then used his teleport that just came up off cooldown to port to the bottom lane in vision and requested a lane swap, our bottom lane began calling him out on his feeding and didn't swap, they continued to argue and flame in their 3 man lane for a solid 3 or 4 minutes During this time their fed top laner killed our jungler who was covering the lane and took two towers. This happened in under a time span of about 6 or 7 minutes id say.

Instead of stating the obvious, ill just say I've never had games like that before.

In the end, its possible to get out, but yes, there is a place in elo where an instance of an extremely bad player outweighs the instance of you being a good player and you lose almost entirely because of it.

Saint Archer3/5/2015, 9:46:11 AM2 votes

it absolutely does exist. anybody over gold will say no and blame you for not being able to carry, they'll throw this stupid "well you have a 4/5 chance of getting a troll on your team and 5/5 chance of getting one on their team, so you should win x amount of games) but it all boils down to LUCK. i literally cannot get out of silver because of feeders and even roaming, jungling, getting fed as adc or hyper carry mid or support, it is impossible to carry a team which does not listen to you, and feed key players on their team, aka a great riven and vayne who are both 9/3 at 20 minutes no matter how many times you gank, you've lost.

Project Riven3/22/2015, 9:45:14 PM2 votes

I had a post about ELO hell.

Yes it does exist but not physically. ELO hell, in terms, is defined as a league or tier where you are better than the rest of your teammate and they don't have the necessary skills and experience to play on yours.

ELO hell exists in all tier, but it seems that more matches in the bronze and silver tier are mostly ELO hell if you're from gold.

ELO hell consists of players who don't know the basics of the game, like where to ward effectively, positioning, freezing lane, when to tp back so they don't miss a wave of cs, not surrendering at 20 min, saving CD's, how to trade with opponent, picking counters, the list goes on. Because of these players who don't know the basics, it's enough to cost you a match.

I'm currently stuck in ELO hell not because of anyone's fault but mine. I blame myself for being in here because I choose to play a champ almost every opportunity I get, rather than champs I am very good at. One thing that I can't stand though is when my team surrenders. I am already willing to tolerate a loss, afk/leavers, trolls, ragers, etc. and just want to play and have fun, but when my team surrenders, it just ruins my enjoyment.

I think the best way out of ELO hell is

  1. Play your best champ.
  2. If you're in a lane you don't usually play, play a freelo champ.
  3. Don't tilt after a loss.
  4. If you do, take a break, watch a youtube video, spend some time on a forum, etc.
  5. Don't ever rage or be dragged into a pointless discussion in game.
  6. If you run into trolls/afk/leavers, just accept it.
Orbv3/23/2015, 3:43:01 PM2 votes

Some might claim that Elo hell is that point when all of your allies say that you're horrible and should stop playing, despite you initiating winning fights and saving their lives, all because you die more times than not.

It's like seeing actual hell as a firey place, or an icey place, or a depressing place with no feeling. It's what really drives you insane.

Linthe3/23/2015, 9:58:50 PM1 votes

If you watched the Santorn and Keith duo q from last night then you know what the answer is....

IziMytTJd73/24/2015, 4:19:26 AM1 votes

Yes it exists. I have 2 accounts in high gold, and on my 3rd I got stuck in silver 2 and even got demoted to silver 3 despite a ridiculous kda.

CaptainTatertits3/5/2015, 10:12:30 AM1 votes

no, but there are a great many people here who suck at math

Horayforcats3/5/2015, 10:11:09 AM1 votes

Okay so Elo hell does exist and I can say that anyone who says it doesn't is delusional. Now before everyone on here goes getting all sideways on me hear me out. Here is how Elo hell exist, with them changing the latter system to having promotional games to go up and down ranks it has caused a very large amount of the community to be in silver or under. What used to be the normal starting Elo of 1200 was not Elo hell as much as it was a gamble for placement. With the new system though anyone in silver 2 and under is in Elo hell. You can get into silver and stay there by playing with a friend to carry you up there or even gold. The problem comes in when people think they are better then there current standing and blame everyone else for the problem of the game. Everyone has bad games everyone has a hard time some times and ranting and raving in a game about it doesn't help the problem. The only way you get out of elo hell is to get into a setting which is normally silver 1 and higher where your in a game with people who understand this and work to win the game. Before silver 1 though you have to carry your team if you want to win at all. That brings up the biggest point about elo hell. That Kat who goes 12/10/6 blames her team for the loss cause she couldn't carry her team. Now sure you lost sure you didn't get the win but you think maybe not having 10 deaths might of helped you carry your team. Most people who think they can carry and blame the team for them not being able to carry will have records like that or 12/12/12 something like that. Go into every game and try to do better then you did last game and you'll get better and excell and should win more game then you lose. Try to die less, cs more, rotate to lanes that need your help, assist that guy who is behind, recomend items to build, or tell the team who to focus. All of those are ways to carry your team just cause your score isn't great doesnt' mean you can't help your team.