Riot Points should be refundable

Ikshvaku··1 votes·417 views

I want to point out something many of you may not be familiar with. I got perma-banned today and wanted to get my RP (or its monetary equivalent) back. However, RP is not refundable apparently.

This is a monetary scam. It is extremely unethical and immoral. Before you stop reading, yes I know, what I did was wrong and it is stated in the ToS that RP is not refundable. However, when you buy something, that is you pay for it in USD (or any currency for that matter), it is YOURS, you can do what you want with it, and your access to that item cannot be determined by another person. When you purchase something, you are trading REAL money for something EQUIVALENT to it. And no one else can infringe upon your right to not be able to use it. This is a fundamental right to all humans. Riot, however, is an immoral company and infringing on that basic right.

Your riot points that you buy, are actually owned by riot. You are handing them free money, for absolutely nothing in return. Just because RP is virtual or electronic does not mean it is imaginary or unreal. I agree that Riot can ban accounts, but by banning and not giving back the money, is just like stealing. Riot is practically stealing your money.

Companies should not be able to do that. All online purchases should be refundable, just like all other merchandise and how it has been in history.

Otherwise, its a scam.

16 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

HA!

You're funny mate

Also, you did finish the transaction, you payed the money, you got the RP. Unfortunately, because you broke the rules, you lost access to that RP. It's the same thing where if you break the law, your accounts can be frozen, and you can't spend anything.

Ikshvaku1 votes

Its a scam because your paying for something imaginary and unreal. Maybe not a "scam" per se, but it is definitely exploitation.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

No, it isn't. Because if you don't break the rules, nothing will happen to you. Simple as that.

Ikshvaku1 votes

I am saying that the "scam" or "exploitation" is specifically not giving equal value for something you paid for. Do you know how currency works? I am trading money for something of equal value. Not something that they practically own. If they own it (which they do in this case), then why charge a monetary amount? This is the definition of exploitation.

EDIT: I am basically paying (giving them money) for something they own, and something they have complete rights to. This is monetary exploitation.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

They gave you the thing you paid for. You the. Lost access to it because you broke the law.

You don't think police can't confiscate things of people they arrest because "the people paid for them, and if they do, it's monetary exploitation!"

Ikshvaku1 votes

Riot is not the state though. Riot is a greedy, capitalistic company.

Ikshvaku1 votes

This is also incorrect. Riot has every right to ban your account for WHATEVER REASON. This is also in the ToS.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Yes, technically they can do that, but that serves as a blanket statement for "if you break the rule, we reserve the right to punish you." If they actually banned people for no reason at all, then no one would play the game

alasarcher2 votes

It is not a scam as you received RP. But you broke terms of use and your account got locked. Its all in TOS. All that you say now is irrelevant, as you agreed to Riots rules yourself. You knew risks and you accepted them. It would be a scam if there werent legally binding contracts that u basically "signed".

Ikshvaku1 votes

Thats my point, Riot should not be able to make rules like that in the ToS. They are fundamentally immoral. The ToS should not protect a company from scamming.

EDIT: Maybe not a "scam" per se, but it is definitely exploitation and hence, immoral.

alasarcher1 votes

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Thats my point, Riot should not be able to make rules like that in the ToS. They are fundamentally immoral. The ToS should not protect a company from scamming.

Well its not like they are forcing people to do anything. Its all your choice. They have to protect themselves too.

Ikshvaku1 votes

Of course they will seek legal protection for doing things that are fundamentally immoral and which is considered exploitative.

OH MAN NOT GOOD1 votes

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Ikshvaku1 votes

Did you read my question?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

You aren't purchasing a product. You are essentially paying for a service, which would be the right to use that content.

In that respect, it is quite similar to a gym membership. You are paying to use the content, but if you violate their terms of service they have the right to prevent you from accessing them without a refund.

Ikshvaku1 votes

Hmm ok makes sense, this is the strongest argument so far.

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