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Yeah, no. Dragons come in many shapes and colors and sizes. Just because the forelimbs aren't separate from the wings doesn't default a dragon to being a wyvern. Yes, wyvern body type. Still a freaking dragon.
Bergk4 votesIm confused. Your subject line says she's not a dragon, she's a wyvern. But the body of your post says she's a dragon not a wyvern?
Ironclad Dragon1 votesI'm quoting what one would say... hence the quotations.
Void Nargacuga9 votesIf we want to get REALLY technical she would be classified as a Pseudo Wyvern while in her "Dragon" form.
Examples of Pseudo Wyverns: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/d/d8/3rdGen-Barioth_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150304014941 & http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/c/c1/2ndGen-Nargacuga_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150303084110
Wyvern definition: a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.
A Pseudo Wyvern is kinda like the missing link between a Wyvern and a true Dragon.
Body type of what a True Dragon looks like: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150303031520/monsterhunter/images/0/03/2ndGen-Kushala_Daora_Render_002.png
Body type of what a Wyvern looks like: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/5/5c/MH4-Rathalos_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20131127152605
Please note: Wyverns and Psuedo Wyverns are just a sub type of Dragons.
Ironclad Dragon3 votesI was waiting for someone to bring that up. What about Eastern Dragons, hm?
Void Nargacuga3 votesThis would be a VERY long winded explanation for Eastern Dragon and its differences to the Western Dragons we usually think of.
This should give you a very good idea on Eastern Dragons. Though for an easy idea on their body type this should be a good example:
Side note: A 
to anyone who can figure out where these images that I have used to make examples of body types originate from!
Bergk2 votesDalamadur!
but League of Legends will get its own "eastern dragon" in 2016! http://36646d87786feafc0611-0338bbbce19fc98919c6293def4c5554.r0.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/5L66tNbIPNlS.878x0.Z-Z96KYq.jpg http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ao_Shin
Void Nargacuga2 votesThis is such a good example of an Eastern Dragon as well! =D
I've checked out his Wikia page as well. We should all keep praying that he arrives Soon (TM).
Ironclad Dragon2 votesDamadular, man. An amazing beast.
Oh, but I know much about the differences between Eastern and Western Dragons, brother. Grew up reading every book I could find on the subject.
Void Nargacuga1 votesOkay that's good! I'm still leaving the link up in case anyone gets curious though.
Trying to explain differences can get... Tedious and confusing really. Though I won't say I'm an expert on dragons either. Monster Hunter Dragons, Wyverns, Pseudo-Wyverns, Bird-Wyverns, Elder Dragons, etc etc... Different story entirely. =P
MtnDewsh1 votes[{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=tPnpeqHX,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2015-11-28T08:52:54.378+0000)
This would be a VERY long winded explanation for Eastern Dragon and its differences to the Western Dragons we usually think of.
This should give you a very good idea on Eastern Dragons. Though for an easy idea on their body type this should be a good example:
Side note: A
Still here waiting for the Lagiacrus champion (Ao Shin). Sigh
Bergk2 votesI was waiting for someone to bring that up. What about Eastern Dragons, hm?
here's an eastern water dragon https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Water_Dragon2.jpg
Bergk5 votesI know what a Wyvern is, I just didn't get why the subject line and the body were conflicting. ps: that's a Barioth & Nargacuga that's a Kushala Daora (an Elder Dragon) And that's a Rathalos I've played 2000+ hours combined across all the US Monster Hunter titles
pps: "Wyvern definition: a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail." All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns. Therefore, no matter what Shyvana is, she is still a dragon at the end of the day.
Void Nargacuga4 votesYou Bergk get a ! Wait! Hold on!
You get these too for your dedication to MH!
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101012084711/monsterhunter/images/f/f9/MHP3-meatcook.gif http://45.media.tumblr.com/2ece00b896e97e70bd2f33da05561953/tumblr_ml9fvfvIP91r5n0t0o1_250.gif http://38.media.tumblr.com/398bff95c72ac2a18353b8611d686311/tumblr_ndfk5cs24j1tlz8ako1_500.gif
AND! A random dancing Deviljho! http://45.media.tumblr.com/f6bfa25d2e74973304b1841e0f392c8e/tumblr_nl7j021OuJ1tqavsio1_500.gif
RaptorKarr3 votesCapcoms most successful game.
Fk you Street Fighter.
Void Nargacuga2 votesFunny note: I got into Monster Hunter by sheer chance... Saw http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/e/e0/Game_Cover-MHFU_US.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100102090143 for $25 and showed it to a friend who was visiting me from out of state... He said it was a good game... Best purchase EVER! I'm a Gunner mainly. I pretty much SPECIALIZE in the http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/3/3b/2ndGen-Bow_Render_011.png/revision/latest?cb=20120512051056. Taking on two Tigrexs, Plesioths, or Khezus in MHFU with my trusty bows? Yeah that was normal for me. And I just keep getting better over time. I do use many other weapons besides my MANY LBGs, HBGs, and Bows to some good skill. Not great but good.
RaptorKarr1 votesThat is the Hardest game in the series. Nargacuga kicked my ass in that game not so much in the next ones though.
Also Rip Kirin ;w; best beginner armor.
Void Nargacuga1 votesKirin... MY MOST HATED ELDER DRAGON TO FACE! Screw that thing! Its hitbox was ridiculous! If you didn't hit the head you were dealing stupid low amounts of damage!
Ever did the Rajang quest from the Elder? Or was it Nekhot who gave it? http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/f/fd/2ndGen-Rajang_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150303050008 http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/3/31/2ndGen-Rajang_Render_002.png/revision/latest?cb=20150303045649
I was doing THOSE quests with Bows and still doing good... Sure I screwed up a few times but I eventually just started wiping the floor with the monsters. Found out much later that those quests were equivalent to G-rank or something... I kinda laughed at that when I found out.
RaptorKarr1 votesKirin's not so bad when you figure her out, I was wearing her armor for most of the game till the first Nargacuga. Thats why Kirin is so worth it the armor is BADASS! Can't say I did, been a while though.
Remember the Kushala Daora?
Void Nargacuga1 votesYeah I remember Kushala Daora... I hunted that with bows REGULARLY just because I could. XD
Void Nargacuga1 votesKirin Armor: Bad-ass or downright Gorgeous... Pending on hunter gender...
And its available to hunt again in MH4U.
Void Nargacuga1 votesExactly! Someone gets it! They would still be correct! Though it will still rustle some jimmies for someone somewhere.
GreenLore1 votesThe title of the thread is a quote,the opener refers to those who say that shyvana is a wyvern and not a dragon and tells them that they are wrong.
jeremiahBIO2 votes[{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=tPnpeqHX,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-11-28T08:41:24.289+0000)
If we want to get REALLY technical she would be classified as a Pseudo Wyvern while in her "Dragon" form.
Examples of Pseudo Wyverns: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/d/d8/3rdGen-Barioth_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150304014941 & http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/c/c1/2ndGen-Nargacuga_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150303084110
Wyvern definition: a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.
A Pseudo Wyvern is kinda like the missing link between a Wyvern and a true Dragon.
Body type of what a True Dragon looks like: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150303031520/monsterhunter/images/0/03/2ndGen-Kushala_Daora_Render_002.png
Body type of what a Wyvern looks like: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/5/5c/MH4-Rathalos_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20131127152605
Please note: Wyverns and Psuedo Wyverns are just a sub type of Dragons.
upvoteing you for using monster hunter.
Void Nargacuga1 votesKinda waiting on Monster Hunter X (Cross) to come to NA... I just keep getting distracted by LoL, among other games, to go and play MH4U.
GetMariahCarried1 votesHence the quotations dude...
The Bearded Bard3 votesDragons are mythical creatures. They can look like and be whatever you want them to be.
Blue Moon Wolf3 votesI love the Dragon/ Wyvern debates, ever since I learned what a Wyvern was from this guy: http://www.herpy.net/gallery/data/media/68/enemy26.png
From what I learned, a Wyvern is to a Dragon as a Ray is to a Shark. Seeing as 
was born from a dragon and a human, that would make her a hybrid rather than a cousin species. Think Liger, but more badass / attractive .__.
aítch2 votesWait what? She isn't a horse?
Bad Havok2 votesok that would also classify smaug as a wyvern? because he basicaly looks li....... GUYS I FOUND SHYVANNA'S DAD
Disulfiram1 votesRaptorKarr1 votesI approve of this
Clint Orris1 votesThis is what she would be Kingdom - Animalia Phylum - Chordata Class - Reptilia Order - Dracoformes Family - Draconidae Genus - Draconis** Species - Wyverneus
So she is a reptile but her species is Wyvern. Just like you can't call a Hyena a Wolf, or a Lion a Tiger. So same class but different species
RaptorKarr4 votesShe was born from a DRAGON and a human that makes her a Dragon.
She wasn't born from a Wyvern.
Wyvern's are cousins of the Dragons much like Dogs are to Wolves.
macromite1 votesactually if you want to use the dogs reference, a wyvern is like a golden retriever, while a dragon with four legs could be something else. dragon is a general term referring to giant lizards that exist in fantasy and may or may not use magic. some dragons have four legs, wings and can breath fire, some dragons have four legs and no wings but can still fly, some dragons have no legs and bird like wings, some dragons can't fly at all. there are shit loads of dragons out there, and I can confirm, wyvern is not a cousin of the dragon, they are dragons, in fact wyverns are even closer related to the western dragon than most other dragons are.
I spent to much time on this topic when I was younger. way too much time.
GreenLore1 votesYeah,her origin(the fact that she was born from a dragon)aside,I think a good rule of thumb is that wyvern are usually not able to spit fire.
Overall I wonder if they'll change shyvanas dragon form once she gets a VU(not that this would happen anytime soon).I mean they once talked about how shyvana doesn't really fullfill the dragon-fantasy that good.
Mordepool1 votesWyverns have back legs and wing. With no foreclaws. Soooooo there is that
Embertine1 votesActually a wyvern is a flying creature which resembles a dragon, however has a poisoned barb on the end of its tail and is incapable of breathing fire.
Dragons however do not have a poisoned barb on their tails and do in fact breath fire. Dragons come in many shapes and sizes, leading to some mistaking them for wyverns at times when they have a wyvern type body. However the two creatures are in fact not related at all.
macromite1 votesnot all dragons breath fire, and some dragons have other or no elemental attack. the only defining feature that makes a dragon a dragon is being a fantastical reptile capable of great feats. wyverns are very related to dragons, they are literally the same creature. you say it yourself that dragons come in many shapes and sizes, but they also come with or without the ability to breath fire.
Embertine1 votesYes however the single thing that makes a wyvern a wyvern and not a dragon, is the poisen barbed tail. Without the barb then one might consider it to be atleast a reletive to the dragons we most often think of. But so long as it has that barb, does not breath fire, and maintains it's specific body shape and appendages, then it is remains a wyvern.
However this debate has no true answer as since these creatures are purely myth, it is up to us what we determine them to be.
Count Zubat1 votesShe doesn't look like a classical dragon because she is half dragon. She probably isn't skilled enough to unleash her full draconic powers, hence why she looks how she looks while in dragon form. Who knows, maybe Shyvana would be able to turn into full fleshed dragon after years of training.
MtnDewsh1 votesWyverns have bird-like bodies (no arms). Shyv has arms and wings. She's a dragon.
Decrit1 votesSince dragons and wyverns are fantasy creatures, their physical description may vary a lot between sources - think that the Jörmungandr ( thank you wikipedia for the copypaste!) that is a sea serpent from the norn mithology is considered a dragon!
This does not mean that a creature can be mixed with an other: if you draw a cat and say that it' s a dog it' s objectively wrong because there is a definite line between what it is and what it is not.
So, what defines a dragon?
Fire? Limbs? Wings?
No. Power.
If you look at the many representations of the dragon on the occidental culture, both in traditional and modern sources, you can see different things described in different ways but that feel the same: the dragons are cunning and intelligent, the dragons are majestic and powerful... and most of all, they know it.
This is why dragons are depicted by staying over a mountain of gold, or are depicted with a princess as a prisoner or some other valuable treasure: they don' t need it, but they can take it because no one can contest it; aware of their position they acknowledge every other being as a lesser being and want to enforce their presence. Think about Smaug from The Hobbit - depicted or not with different limbs, he fits this description perfectly. Even Saphira from Eragon fits this description, but she is bound to her knight with a ritual that makes her more tame and more respectful for other beings ( not much, but enough).
Wyverns, on the other hand, are just beasts. With low intellect and driven by basic instincts they can barely speak in most of representations.
The Dragon on the river might be instead a wyvern ( or a dragon that is not very talkative) but in Shyvana case is apparent that her father was not a beast, but a creature gifted of intelligence, rationality and power ( at least over magic, or else she could not be conceived ).
pripustas1 votesNOW I AM A DRAGON! FEEL MY DOUBLED PASSIVE! I WILL SURELY DEFEAT YOU!
Zyorhist1 votesDepending on the base culture, dragons don't even have wings...
Zelphon1 votesSeeing as how Dragons aren't actually real, and different fictional universes can each have their own terminology for the same mystical creatures, she can within all rights be what ever Riot says she is, in this case, a dragon.
Dominick Destine1 votesA Wyvern is a type of dragon.
Epic fail.
