You can make any champ sound OP if you word it right...

ahferroin7·5/19/2016, 4:38:00 PM·87 votes·6,626 views

This concept gets tossed out a lot by people down-voting threads complaining about a specific champ. It's also entirely true. Take for example Zilean, who I was recently explaining to somebody new to the game:

He has a 600-1100 base value heal which scales off of 200% AP, an AoE stun with attached damage, a 99% slow which can instead be used to speed boost allies, and can top up his allies XP to help them out-level opponents.

Sounds pretty broken, doesn't it? The heal is his ult, which requires his target to die and then makes them sit there for a few seconds. The stun is his Q which requires him to land two skilshots on the same target, the slow is his E which really doesn't have many strings attached other than CD and mana cost, and the XP bit is his passive, which is on a really long CD.

This got me thinking about other champs..

Anyone who wants to, name a champ, and I'll make them sound OP (probably not to the degree that is possible with someone like Lee Sin, but still).

And, on that note, as I know they'll be mentioned by someone:

Urgot: Has a AoE ability that applies a physical DoT and armor shred (which boosts the damage of the DoT), has a ranged point and click damage source that refunds mana if it kills something and can slow people, has a suppress which also displaces the target, and his AA's reduce the target's damage output and can slow them.

The armor shred DoT is his E, which is a skilshot, the point-and-click damage is his Q when he targets someone affected by his E, the slow on that and his AA's is a passive while his W is up, and the suppress is his ult, which is channeled and displaces both his target and him.

Yorick: Has a ranged AoE slow which follows you around and seeks out targets, an AA augment which then follows you around and seeks new targets, a source of sustain which can follow you around, can reanimate allies, scales better into very late game than most hyper-carries, and all his abilities grand him bonus AD and damage reduction.

AoE slow is his W, AA augment is his Q, sustain is his E, and all of them summon minions with decaying health, reanimate is his ult (which only reanimates for 10 seconds), and the bonus damage and DR is his passive which gives him bonuses for all active summons in game. The scaling bit isn't made up, but isn't really tied to any abilities, it's fully possible for a built Yorick to solo entire teams and Baron late game (real late game, not 40 minutes).

EDIT: Apparently some people are failing to get that I'm making fun of all the people who do this regularly as their argument for nerfing a champion.

130 Comments

Yordle Xayah5/19/2016, 5:54:53 PM59 votes

Yoric is SO TOXIC that he currently stands as the ONLY CHAMPION that is not on the weekly rotation of free champions. I'm not even making that up.

WutsKraken5/19/2016, 5:12:53 PM16 votes

Very long ranged AoE spell on a 1 second cooldown, deals DOUBLE DAMAGE to single targets! Long ranged massive AoE slow that also shreds 15% magic resistance A constant AoE aura around him for a measily mana cost and passively gives him mana sustain Global ultimate that literally nukes the ENTIRE enemy team!

Fairly good AP ratios on all his abilities

And worst of all!!!!!

If you kill him HE CAN STILL CAST SPELLS AND PENTAKILL YOU FROM THE GRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karthus

KANYE OBAMA GOD5/19/2016, 5:27:45 PM13 votes

I wanna try one for Twitch! Ahem:

You are an adc who has a permanent true damage DoT attached to his auto attacks that stacks up to 6 times, a maximum of about 200 true damage when you reach max stacks. His Q lets him stealth to reposition and when he comes out of stealth he gets a huge attack speed steroid to let him apply his passive even faster. To add to this, his W is an AoE slow skillshot that adds 2 stacks of his passive. His E lets him do massive damage to any target with stacks of his passive on them, up to almost 500 base damage combined with a scaling of around 90% of your bonus AD. If he didn't already have enough tools to unleash this crazy damage, his ult increases his auto attack range, makes his autos pierce through everything it his in a straight line, is an AoE, and grants him massive amounts of AD for the duration of it.

That's pretty fun lol

Dataless5/19/2016, 9:21:48 PM11 votes

Bard; You're God. Have fun.

LatetotheRace5/19/2016, 7:17:22 PM9 votes

Well, Yorick can execute his allies with 100k True damage. So...... sounds op to me.

DarkSunSovereign5/19/2016, 5:53:32 PM5 votes

Swain He's a mage with a consistent source of DPS, that also FRIGGIN HEALS HIM, on 5 targets! Not no mention he has TWO types of CC, one of which has a whopping 1.6AP ratio? WTF rito? Not to mention the absolutely INSANE 20% damage amplification he gets FROM LEVEL 1? Wow, Riot really dropped the ball on this one.

xxxDogmanxxx5/20/2016, 1:33:43 AM4 votes

Consistently complained about in the forums and is hated whenever he receives any sort of buff!

Considered the most broken champion ever in the history of League of Legends upon release!

He can get up to 15 seconds of enhanced auto-attacks with a five second cooldown that also decreases the cooldowns of all his other abilities every time he uses one of those that enhanced auto-attacks!!

He has a guaranteed heal and crit every third auto-attack and his heals scale off of attack damage!!

He has an AoE targeted slow that also deals damage!!

He can knock the entire enemy team back and gain 125 armor and 125 magic resist while doing it, while also dealing %health damage to everyone around him!!!!

XinZhao: 43% win rate.

acraftyferret5/19/2016, 6:55:40 PM3 votes

The irony is, you listed two champs that are regarded as blatantly over powered and gated by weak numbers and low play rate

The other one, zilean is a sleeper op pick that is even used at worlds.

Basically while you were trying to make a tee her ha ha joke, you actually just made op champs sound op. So, gj.

JMoormann5/19/2016, 7:52:02 PM3 votes

A manaless champion who has a revive passive which also gives him tons of attack speed. He has a long ranged ground-targeted dash which does not only deal damage which scales with AD, but which also has a knockup. He has a steroid which either gives him bonus damage or heal on every 3rd attack, with the heal being tripled below 50% health, which has great synergy with his 2 AS steroids, and both the damage and heal scale with bonus AD. He also has a long ranged 2.5 second slow which deals magic damage, but scales with bonus AD as well. And his ult is not only a magic damage AOE nuke, it also gives him even more attack speed and increased range. This champion must surely be broken.

Aatrox

Quackdratic Duck5/19/2016, 5:52:58 PM3 votes

He has permanent bonus auto-attack damage that scales off AP and a ghost buff for his passive As an assassin, One of his abilities is a targeted skillshot nuke that giving him a shield scalling of his damage, alongside a passive that reduces enemy damage inflicted, while his no-cost W lets him recover mana for infinite sustain and deal instant damage to enemies. Moreover, he can deal AOE damage that slows for 90% and has a dash dealing damage every 2 seconds. He can use his all these abilities at the same time to burst anyone with immediate damage, making him the most mobile assassin capable of negative tons of damage with the resistances he's got and with the strong itemization he can get. Kassadin

Denimist5/19/2016, 8:45:35 PM3 votes

i want to try for annie.... you are a 6 year old girl, and you can 1 hit ko mightiest warrior of demacia,a star dragon and the grim reaper itself.

WolfBV5/20/2016, 9:28:46 AM3 votes

Galio has an aoe taunt that deals more damage the more he's hurt, a shield that reduces damage and heals him, an age speed boost that deals damage and speeds up all allies that go into it, an aoe damage dealing slow, and he gains damage when building defense.

EarthenDragon5/19/2016, 4:53:54 PM2 votes

Ooh :D Do one for Gnar!

PbJMpP4xzk5/19/2016, 5:05:39 PM2 votes

that is so useless there is a huge gap between the world of words and the pratical world judge what you see not what you heard so yeah you have way too much freetime to lose.

Lugg5/19/2016, 7:53:13 PM2 votes

Words aren't the thing that make OP champs OP.

RowanEnd5/19/2016, 8:01:11 PM2 votes

Notice which champs they're doing this with though. It tends be champions like Leblanc, Zed, Yasuo, Etc. that have a history of being extremley problematic. And more often than not people give some examples of why that particular champ is op, ex. the classic "one tiny pixel of Nami's ult can hit yasuo's wall and it'll still disappear."

macromite5/19/2016, 10:40:26 PM2 votes

this is memes and games people, not memes and gameplay.

Lord Galvatron5/20/2016, 12:19:33 AM2 votes

Fiddlesticks: His passive allows him to become a Scarecrow after remaining motionless for 5 seconds.

POG

CHAMP

MisterShameless5/19/2016, 6:32:21 PM1 votes

There is a champion that is insanely overpowered that all you have to do is use their Q and just walk. You can and WILL use this the entire game. You can die countless times and it wont matter because just having you in the game WILL win the match. If the enemy chases you, they will die from the trail of destruction you leave behind, you can walk to the enemy base and just SIT THERE and THEY HAVE TO chase you down or else you WILL destroy their base. I'm not lying! You can literally die as many times as you want, just walk around, and just need to use your Q and nothing else to win the game. That's all it takes to play this champion! Why won't you believe me D:

Glîtchy5/20/2016, 6:06:28 PM1 votes

He can turn invisible, poison you which gets worse with each hit, and if he kills you he can turn invisible again, he also can slow you, and has an ability that deals more damage the worse you're poisoned, he also has high damage output and attack speed while still building full crit. Twitch

NightOfLight5/20/2016, 6:28:02 PM1 votes

Garen is so op he gets a bunch of free stats for being a juggernaught and his q and e do insane amounts of damage for a tank and dont get me started on how his w lets him reduce damage done to him by a lot and his ult does a bazillion damage if your the villain. This is what I get every time I play garen and I love it.

Shonjl5/20/2016, 7:04:18 PM1 votes

I love how you try to make Zilean sound OP without even putting all the details in.

He has a 600-1100 base heal that scales off 200% AP that only works on someone that dies within a few seconds of it being cast. Also on a fairly long cooldown compared to most ults.

He has an AoE Stun with attached damage involving landing 2 of one of the hardest to land AoEs in the game.

His Slow/Speed boost is point and click but his only easy to use ability.

Doesn't sound OP now does it? Its all conditional.

Hanabanashii5/20/2016, 7:40:44 PM1 votes

Try doing Zed

ValyrianBlade5/24/2016, 10:39:42 PM1 votes

Except Zilean is kind of OP... or at least occasionally is and has a kit that can be really annoying at times.

Try making a simple champion sound OP:

  • Ashe
  • Nunu
  • Sivir

Okay, to be fair I just went through the entire champion roster and those are the only 3 that have basic enough kits that I think you can't make them sound OP without grossly exaggerating things (e.g. saying Ashe can be insanely tanky and does hyper-carry damage, relying on building her full tank in the first case and full glass cannon in the latter, that's not exactly realistic).

I mean, the best I can do for these 3: Ashe: Permanently slows everyone around her (1/3 of the champion roster has dashes and doesn't care) Has an infinite ranged stun (so what, if you aren't there to follow up the stun doesn't do much good, so anyone with a decent ranged stun is about the same)

Nunu: Can hide in a bush and charge to do like 1/2 your half in damage - big deal Has a solid monster execute - who cares?

Sivir: Can push lane really fast - not exactly hard Can give a huge MS buff to her team - with all the mobility in this game, it's pretty much standard Can block spells and regenerates mana by blocking them - okay, the closest she gets to OP, but you'd have to be pretty ridiculous to imply she can do this on a low cooldown.

Otherwise though, yea, I can see something in pretty much each other champion's kits to make them sound OP. That doesn't change why people complain about champions though, it all depends on how much they exaggerate things. There's a very large difference in how strong Zed is and always has been compared to Fiora even prior to her latest nerfs, and a huge different between that and complaining about how Volibear is OP without mentioning how easily he's kited.

MohawkBird5/24/2016, 10:42:34 PM1 votes

The trick is that champions who are actually broken can have so much more listed about them compared to balanced champions like Zilean.