I figured I would repost this beauty so that even new players can appreciate it...

kokopelli2·1/10/2016, 4:53:31 PM·113 votes·18,190 views

Schrödinger's (theoretical) experiment: An enemy Garen is MIA

The observer cannot know whether or not Garen is in the bush and consequently, cannot know whether or not he will be killed if he enters it. Since we cannot know, according to quantum law, the Garen is both in the bush and isn't, in what is called a superposition of states. It is only when we facecheck the bush and learn the condition of the Garen that the superposition is lost, and Garen becomes one or the other (in the bush or not in the bush). This situation is sometimes called quantum indeterminacy or the observer's paradox: the observation or measurement itself affects an outcome, so that the outcome as such does not exist unless the measurement is made. (That is, there is no single outcome unless it is observed.)

We know that superposition actually occurs at every elo level, because there are observable effects of interference, in which a single particle is demonstrated to be in multiple locations simultaneously. What that fact implies about the nature of reality on the observable level (Garen, for example, as opposed to entire teams) is one of the stickiest areas of quantum physics. Schrödinger himself is rumored to have said, later in life, that he wished he had never met that Garen.

Schrödinger's famous thought experiment poses the question, when does a MIA stop existing as a superposition of states and become one or the other? (More technically, when does the actual Bush stop being a linear combination of states, both empty and containing a Garen, and instead begins to have a singular classical description?) If the bush is facechecked, it can only be one. Our experience says that no bush can be both empty and containing an enemy; yet the bush, it seems from the thought experiment, can be such a mixture. Is Garen required to be an observer, or does his existence in a single well-defined classical state require another external observer?

Credits to the writer: BlackDestruction http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=831444

77 Comments

RiotRiot Koalifier1/10/2016, 7:31:06 PM42 votes

Long time player but I never saw the original post, thanks for the repost :D

Does this also apply to the location of Teemo shrooms?

MrryZ1/10/2016, 5:31:05 PM26 votes

for some reason I just got an image of the garen going mia and every single particle of the fog of war turning into a garen icon in the minimap...

The Whamboozler1/10/2016, 8:21:33 PM18 votes

Five Garen. All for one. All with teleport. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!

Melledoneus1/10/2016, 8:24:15 PM14 votes

TwistedFate: I'm gonna cheat the Schrodinger law thing. Ults

AMYS GRAVE1/10/2016, 8:24:26 PM10 votes

The field theory of warding posed by Feynman clearly disproved this hypothesis years ago.

FebruAhri1/10/2016, 9:09:46 PM8 votes
Demented Gag1/11/2016, 3:17:17 AM5 votes

I just remembered Doom bots, where Garen was in every bush.

K541/11/2016, 12:02:15 AM2 votes

I've always found that the deadliest champ from the bush is Annie Full combo for the instant melt!

darapier171/11/2016, 2:22:36 AM2 votes

Due to the fact that the Garen is in fact on the enemy team, and therefore can be seen by someone, can thus not be in both states at the same time. It is due to this observation, however, that we must make this thought experiment even more complicated; in order for the Garen to be in a single state, the facechecker(?) must rceive some information to the end of the Garen actually being in the bush he/she would like to go in. Unfortunately, the enemy team, all of which can see the garen, will not be forthcoming with such information, and as there is no ward in the bush, one must ask the question; in order for a single state to be achieved (i.e garen being either there or not), does the observer have to facecheck the bush himself, rather, does the Garen himself exist in different states depending on who is measuring him. The answer to this question may incite the other question; are there different realities? Thi is supported by the Garen being in different states depending of different observers. The seperate realities, then, would crash together once someone facechecks the bush, as the Garen is shown to all members of the game wether or not he is in the bush

Mech0p1/11/2016, 4:42:46 AM2 votes

Someone listened in school.... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

FuntaC1/12/2016, 12:05:02 AM2 votes

The, as yet unsaid, question that remains is posed by the riddle, "Can one hand clap?" Let's continue the thought experiment by imaging TwistedFate wants to know, he asks Leblanc whether she knows. She tells him that she heard about an unseen hand that could be found that would clap the one hand.

Our brave TF began putting his hand in various unseen places to test it. If I am going to find this unseen clap I must check everywhere, he thought. TF's last act was to seek the clap in the bush, so he put his hand in the bush, and ...

Putting all possible dangers in the bush aside for a moment, this leads to the second part of the mystery. Is it possible that an observable state might be a multiple according to the number of senses observing. If TF received the clap, then what is known about the contents of the bush? Would a Garen in the bush be the unseen hand that shared the clap with TF, or might that Garen choose not to be observed by TF's probing hand? However, assuming Garen was in the bush, if the bush was face checked, thus putting both in the bush, then the Garen would be seen. One observation is guaranteed. One observation is potential. Only not sensing the bush at all avoids the outcome of knowing. Therefore, the Garen in the bush has multiple states (there or not according to the number of sense observing), is a variable force (having potential), and is possibly of no matter while not observed.

Pale Pirate1/10/2016, 9:43:48 PM1 votes

But what happens if you are moving in a relatively extremely higher speed than Garen?

jama6551/10/2016, 11:08:46 PM1 votes

but thats just a theory