"THERE IS TOO MUCH TO BAN AT LEAST THIRTY OP CHAMPS"

ModCaptainMårvelous··55 votes·4,544 views

Riot make the new ban system blind with duplicates in favor of time or some shit.

"WHAT THE FUCK SO MANY PEOPLE WILL JUST BAN THE SAME THINGS."

So there's too much to ban. But at the same time people will ban the same five-to-seven-ish champs and lose bans.

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45 Comments

4th Chiming Lamb7 votes

What...what is that?

Deep Terror Nami13 votes

Urf the Nami-tee thinking

FatedSaviour9 votes

you spelt it wront, its AART, get it, cuz, 4, heh, heh, ill leave now ;-;

AwesomeGuyDj5 votes

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you spelt it wront, its AART, get it, cuz, 4, heh, heh, ill leave now ;-;

its actually ARTE you uncultured swine.

Hella Kaiser2 votes

un centurione romano che parla inglese? assolutamente barbarico!

Hella Kaiser1 votes

ok

Fairyfleur1 votes

URF the Nami-tee

FatedSaviour4 votes

why is your name blue?

FatedSaviour3 votes

hmmm, but, im OCE, can you still ban me?

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Not from the OCE boards, but I could here.

FatedSaviour4 votes

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, on one hand i dont want to be banned, but on the other, you make me wanna know more

Melledoneus1 votes

Omaeru wa banned-deiru.

Captaín Insano1 votes

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https://i.gyazo.com/86aaeba37af715707d4e6af4d6bb3c35.png

I want my name blue. make my name blue. LOL

FatedSaviour4 votes

is there one of these for every champ???, find me sion

Laughing Fish3 votes

Alas, there isn't one for Sion

FatedSaviour1 votes

then find me a gif of him crying

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

How do you get those?!

SpookyNeedle1 votes

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How do you get those?!

I googled LoL thinking emoji, then added ?noredirecturl to the end of the link I pasted in my comment

Sraeg20131 votes

then added ?noredirecturl to the end of the link

A mere "?b" is enough.

junglerboy164 votes

TL;DR: at bottom

I don't buy the argument that there are way too many broken OP champs, because if that was the case, bans wouldn't actually be an issue in the first place because I'd fight your OP with my OP and it would all be a moot point.

The real issue is that there still remains a priority of top bans (usually the really broken FotM champs at the time) and then there are bans that most players would like to make, usually for the sake of removing a strong lane counter or something that counters their team comp.

People got excited for 10 bans because they thought it meant they'd be able to ban away the OP champs that are just too good to leave alone and still have a couple bans to deal with their specific strategy and style. The way they've implemented the new ban system leaves you without any guarantee that the OPs are taken care of until it's too late, meaning you have to do one of a few things; risk facing a champ that is unfair to face regardless of your team comp or burn your ban on a FotM (not fun), leave the OPs unbanned in the hopes that you can pick it first (again leaving way too much to chance for most player's taste), or go ahead and ban what you want that specifically counters your champ/team comp and pray that you can outperform your opponent in the case they get one of the current OPs.

Now realistically those aren't terrible choices, but in terms of how it feels when strategizing and planning for the game ahead it is a major step in the wrong direction. It just sounds unfair, even if both teams are being treated equally, since it leaves a lot of the pick phase to dumb luck that you ban the right things and don't accidentally double ban everything.

That and it is a clearly inferior system to the one currently in use in the LCS, where it is instead a strategic and fair system instead of a potential clusterfuck of people accidentally double banning, dropping bans unintentionally, and not being able to tell what is going on clearly.

TL;DR: It's not about there being too many OPs to ban, it's about how awful the new ban system will feel, especially when compared to the clearly superior model of 10 bans used in pro play.

kile1471 votes

Basically prisoners dilemma.

50000000000000001 votes

"I'd fight your OP with my OP and it would all be a moot point." What if you don't like playing any of the OP picks? It's still an issue even if, say, top 30 picks are at about the same power level.

ModCaptainMårvelous9 votes

You're reading far too much into a joke. Take that to gameplay man.

junglerboy163 votes

Whoops, I've seen so many of these posts lately I forgot to check which board it was on, my bad [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Troll for Trump3 votes

Something something it's just a joke in memes and games

There are a lot of things that people want to ban.

Many of those things overlap.

You could have a hate list of Yasuo, Ahri, Lee Sin, and Fizz. So do many other people. You want to have them banned, but you don't want to waste your ban because the enemy was planning to ban him too. But if you don't ban him, the enemy team might have chosen not to ban him so their first pick could pick one of those champs. So you're stuck with no good decision choice.

Sraeg20133 votes

Because when your team has only 5 players and you don't see enemy team's bans, then both teams end up going through the checklist of "Most OP/unfun champions".

But what could I possibly know?

https://68.media.tumblr.com/9923b4686346800c740725df499bbb36/tumblr_ny3h9b2jEO1qjvkxgo1_500.gif

Sammystorm1 votes

what anime is this?

Sraeg20131 votes

Utawarerumono.


The anime is one of my personal favourites, though the source material (eroge SRPG visual novel) is unsurprisingly better even so slightly.

Should you care enough to watch the anime and proceed to the sequel, it may not initially make sense, because the anime omits the eroge part.

QuickenedBlade2 votes

30 op champions with 5-8 really op champions

The Ecdysiast2 votes

It's because there are some that are extremely high priority, and others people just end up dealing with. It makes no sense to make it ten bans when there's a decent chance it'll actually only be 5.

Jet Sett1 votes

I mean it's sort of like a mental tier list for people, go down the list for bans. Obviously popular bans are shared because people tend to have similar bans. The same champs will be banned because I don't know that you banned what I think should be banned.

Catastrophic1 votes

Yes, and it works like: "Here's the list of OP champs in order of OP-ness: DrMundo Bard Cassiopeia Camille Garen Illaoi Heimerdinger Evelynn Blitzcrank Brand Bard Galio Rammus" List is completely made up btw.

So if both teams agree on that list, they will both ban the first 5. As these are high priority OP champions, while the rest are lower priority. It doesn't take a scientist to figure it out.

ModCaptainMårvelous2 votes

Now, hear me out.

Have you considered banning the "second" five if both teams agree the first five is such a high priority that "it'd be goofy not to ban them"? Or maybe we're fearful that you might get played?

Seesh, never bring League players to a poker game.

Catastrophic1 votes

Well if we could communicate and agree on the list, it'd be fine, but most people have a different priority order/list based on their role. For example, a top laner would have more incentive to ban fiora, while a support, would most likely ban lulu.

And as said in another comment, getting true 10 bans would give the community as a whole, a voice to communicate with riot. So that they have to fix certain champions when they get banned near 70%+ of games.

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