BREAK THE META!!!

lvlakaveli·4/9/2014, 5:39:55 PM·1 votes·748 views

this post is for all the people who wanna play panth supp, or sona top, tank teemo, adc ryze, or even mid warwick.

we DO NOT wanna be punished with extended queue time in team builder for not following guides.

a adc ryze should not have to wait 30+ min to join a game simple because lucian is more ACCEPTABLE.

these are our games and our fights. we should decide who we choose to play as, in whichever role we choose.

the server and staff of riot should only exist as spectators making sure everyone has a fair chance to win.

5 Comments

Onegarion4/9/2014, 6:04:31 PM3 votes

Yea team builder allows you to play what you want, but it doesn't make those picks viable. Teambuilder isn't just about picking what you want, but picking so that the captain has a team they want. The captain is building a team (hence the name) and they want that team to succeed. If they think your pick is going to harm that chance then they won't let you on their team. While team builder does help you pick a role and champ that you want to play it does not guarantee you a chance to play it because you want to. Not everyone is going to be ok with you going with these picks and some have good reason.

ADC ryze doesn't make much sense at all. Yea he has his root, but he doesn't scale well now. The reason champions like Cait, Lucian, Jinx, etc are adcs are because they scale with ad in which they build. Also ryze have a really low AA range doesn't help you or the fact that his ult has spell vamp and not life steal. So a portion of his kit is now useless because it doesn't help him. Its almost like buidling an AP XinZhao. Only his heal benefits, but that doesn't make up for the loss of the rest of the kit that becomes useless and marginal in use because he hasn't built for it.

Tank teemo is ok except for the one fact that your shrooms simply are useless. They have almost no damage on them. They just get in the way and only slow you, but you won't get anyone to do anything else about them because they do nothing in terms of damage if you only build tank. Honestly shrooms are a big part of why people use teemo because they deal so much damage late game that enemies are taking extra measures to avoid them.

Supp panth i've seen and while I won't do it he really doesn't have much other than a stun which is nice, but overall doesn't bring much. I actually see people being ok with sup panth as a whole. Not everyone, but i don't ever see to many or many complaining about it.

Sona just works better with someone. Her spells are meant to be used on her and someone else. Each spell affects 2 targets minus her ult. One of those targets being sona when its for allies. Its just a matter of efficiency when it comes to sona in a solo lane and she doesn't scale all that well compare to other AP solo laners like Ryze into the late game.

Again these aren't YOUR fights if you are apart of the team. You need to still think in a team sense and not be so focused on doing what you want. GO get a friend and start your own game and you be the captain. If it takes forever for you to go adc ryze then maybe you'll understand or if you et a group quickly then ahve fun playing, but don't complain because someone doesnt want you on their team because of a weird pick.

AbiwonKenabi4/9/2014, 6:59:23 PM2 votes

It's one thing to want to do something different, but only when it makes sense. AP Miss Fortune or Trist? That makes sense, they have some decent AP ratios (Ok I think AP MF took a hit after the changes, but you get what I mean). Panth kill lane bot? Yeah that makes sense, Pantheon's stun and damage can really get him or his buddy fed early. But AD Ryze? With his awkward auto animation and mid-low range? Tank Teemo, who's main use is to counter bruisers and be effective with his mushroom/poison damage? You can try cool things, but it has to make sense.

For example, I've run a Vi/Yasuo duo lane, to pretty decent effect. Their ults synergize well, so them laning together is odd, but not unfounded. Or I've once done Elise support; She has a decent stun, percent scaling damage and can solo drag relatively early. I've seen MANY different junglers pass through team builder as well--some worked well, like Zed or Renekton jungle. Some, not so much (Jinx jungle comes to mind. Ugh.)

All I'm saying is, sure, try oddball picks, but only when it makes sense. We all still want to try things that have a good chance of working. Annie support was once an oddball pick, and now look how common it is. But she has the tools to be effective in that role, people didn't just randomly say "I wonder if she could support well..." They were probably like "Hey Annie has several AOE stuns that are up relatively frequently. That would be useful for an aggressive bot lane." And then someone tried it and it worked.

Kyleman1434/9/2014, 7:37:48 PM1 votes

I know how you feel like there are times where even trying to play ryze top takes 10 min in queue like this game makes no sense i wanna jung nocturne or kha as assassins and the queue time is very long then i try putting them as fighters and it becomes short the whole ad for teambuilder was play whatever you want wherever you want but you really cant team builder is still forcing the meta upon us and is making it difficult for people ti play certain things

Onegarion4/9/2014, 11:01:24 PM1 votes

i hate the idea that so many people ahve about team builder. Its called teambuilder not break the meta que. So just let that sink in for a sec.