@Riot: Lets talk about rank demotions and why it promotes toxicity.

Packun Flower·7/24/2014, 6:59:59 AM·3 votes·1,014 views

I'd like to take a moment to vent both my opinion and my frustration at the ranking system for league and to voice why I think one of Riot's big game play functions, demotions, is one of the major causes of toxicity on this game.

I haven't been playing ranked long, I played last season and made it to silver and this season I was hoping to get to gold, but now I have given up on that dream.

I'm currently in Silver 3 and I have been demoted from Silver 2 to Silver 3 at least 30 times in the past 4 months. I never found myself to be a "Toxic" player but as I watched my hard work to get that high be taken away from me again and again and again due to demotions I find myself becoming extremely toxic towards this game, the community and the company.

I have become toxic because of being demoted.

I always tried my best in ranked games but 9/10 games will either have a feeder, AFKer, Troll or just an overall toxic player, in most (Not all of my games) I do play well but end up losing or doing poorly late game because of other peoples actions. (IE, going 6/1.4 as Annie in lane then coming out in the negatives KDA because top got fed and started roaming) as a random example. It's extremely difficult for me to gain any LP because of constant losing streaks and these losing streaks always lead to my demotion.

I could only take so much, I want to be gold and get the fancy rewards but now I will often become vulgar and toxic and downright mean towards both ally and enemy players alike due to frustration of being demoted. Niceness got me no where, so why should I care what others think? In the end we'll lose and I'll just end up getting demoted again, why should I be nice and happy about that? if someones making stupid plays and costing me hours of hard work, then yes, I will talk down to them, I will be toxic towards them and I will make sure they know what they did and how they are hurting me.

People don't seem to understand that being demoted hurts, especially Riot, its demoralizing, it promotes anger, frustration and toxicity towards the community usually by stress of losing and its overall not a very healthy mechanic for a game like this to have. I'm not saying everyone should be challenger tier not at all, understand how special the tier is and that tier has a reason to have demotions. But for someone like me who wants to get better, to play with better people by climbing the ladder and to have something to show for the time and effort I put into being promoted. I can;t do that if you keep demoting me because of a losing streak cause by a few bad people.

Now I want to throw out there that I don;t mind losing normal games, or bot games, or anything. Until I started playing ranked losing games never really bothered me, I would be fine with losing games in rank of the risk of demotion wasn't there. But it is and that alone is enough to cause a stressful situation and it leads me to being toxic. And the whole" Everyone's a winner" outlook is not a valid answer either, I find the LP system and the MMR system to work find in stopping that kind of situation from happening, I just don't want hard work thrown away because of bad losing streak or trolls, or afkers or whatever.

I really hate what ranked play has turned me into. Being demoted again and again has really shown me a darker and more toxic side to myself and its not going away anytime soon. Riot has stated that they always try to address toxcity and what causes it. Well for me the demotion system has really killed everything nice I used to be. I don't like it but its what I am now. And if I get banned or not for this post is up to Riot, but I hope this post helps Riot and others understand a little more what might cause toxic behavior during ranked play.

It was also be nice if a red would reply, just so that I know this plea did reach at least someone in Riot, but that's not likely to happen.

PS: I also posted this in GD on the other forums because I'm not sure which one we should really be using.

2 Comments

Nairebis7/24/2014, 4:56:41 PM2 votes

Just keep trying man. Try and try and try. A Duo would help a lot too. The key is to not give up and (as hard as it may be for some) refrain from being overly negative and instead try to be constructive. It will be infuriating and it will be demoralizing and it absolutely will be frustrating.

Just look at me, I never gave up and never let myself become the overly toxic player I could have been and after 2 1/2 Seasons of trying and failing and trying again, I managed to climb from Silver to Gold and then just yesterday from Gold to Plat. And it is a damn good feeling well worth putting up with all the toxicity.

There were times I got trolled down from Gold 3 to Gold 5 for the second half of Season 3 and I never recovered from it. That was downright rage inducing(over 10 game loss streak.) But in this Season, I told myself I will get myself to Platinum and sure enough I did just that because I never gave up and never stopped trying.

Worgslarg7/24/2014, 12:22:26 PM1 votes

Got silver 5 in provisionals.

Proceded to lose 5 games in a row.

Now too afraid to play ranked bc of risk of demotion before end of season( rewards)