It feels like (to me) more CC oriented junglers are set on the wayside. Unless you can fight other champions effectively (Vi/Elise/Lee) you can't get to jungle anymore. Does anyone else feel that way? I mean when was the last time Amumu got picked in pro scene lol?
I completely agree, but that's just how the meta rolls. Assassin jungles are simply more popular right now. By all means though try jungling with them in normals, they are by no means bad. Personally I'm a fan of Voli jungle right now :)
The Reason assassin junglers, now Carry Junglers like Wu and Panth are so popular now is that they carry. Carrying with Naut/Sej/Mao is a serious challenge. What they do is that they /multiply/ power rather than add.
Say Mid and Bot are snowballing due to Sejuani ganks. The overall team "power" is say 30, Sejuani's intense CC and engages multiply the team's overall effectiveness by 2, so it's really 60.
Say all lanes are losing due to a couple of failed ganks from poor Nautilus. Team power drops to 10 as a result, he multiplies it by say 2, that's still only 20 power, they are weak. You'd want Wu or Vi at this point, because they'd /add/ about 15 by themselves, and getting fed increases their power further.
Tl:dr: CC jungles require team to do well, but can simply snowball entire games. Carry jungles can, well, carry.
What I find being a problem for more traditional "tank" junglers right now is twofold.
First, they do not clear very quickly, and this hinders them GREATLY. Because of how the Conservation passive works on the jungle items, there is an "ideal" rate to farming the jungle, and if you fall below that mark (One camp every 40 seconds) then you are literally wasting gold. One camp every 40 seconds is very manageable for these champs, but the fact that they have to spend a quarter of that time working down the camp to get the money simply not to fall behind means that they can spend less time doing what they want to do; ganking.
Second is the counter-snowball changes that were introduced in the new season. Tank junglers in season 3 lived to get their lanes rolling and hand the game over to them. If they could get their lane one or two kills, then that lane SHOULD be good for that game. But with the dragon changes especially, that is no longer the case. The early first bloods to capitalize on their CC that they could provide are worth less and the objective they have the hardest time controlling and fighting over is now much more valuable.
Their one big issue is their inherit tankiness and CC. They clear slow and can be counter jungled because they have huge CC abilities.
They need to have lane partners that snowball quickly but its hard to do that in solo queue.A champ like Sej wants to get to late game. Right now the meta is to win the game before 20 minutes.
I thin that Sejuani has the tools to help a weaker team come back. The one thing I frequently do with her us punish my opponents for overextending. MANY players, when they're winning, get cocky and overly aggressive. Sejuani can charge in from the side, knock one of them up when they're out of position, slow them down to let teammates get a kill, and then throw her ult into the clump of opponents that often is close behind the overextended player. These tactics depend on your opponents making a mistake, sure, but carry-style junglers need the right opportunities to exploit too. Sejuani just benefits from a different sort of opportunity.
