Would Quinn be more popular if she was melee?

ShadowNinetails·5/8/2014, 7:23:11 AM·1 votes·568 views

So I'm reading the summary of Braum's Q&A on Surrender@20 and RiotRepertoir called out that Quinn was one of his favorite lane partners for Braum. Quinn being a champion that I fell in love with as soon as I first saw her (a trend it seems with all of IS's champs), I've always been disappointed at how rarely she's seen at any level (according to leaguepedia, she's been picked 6 times in worldwide competitive play in the 15 months since her release). But why is this? Sure she doesn't have the overwhelming early game bully style that Lucian or MF provide or the late game "must deal with them before they penta your team" pressure that Vayne and Trist bring to the table. Her power curve seems to be more akin to a top lane Fighter than any Marksman around, something that is no secret as the few times I DO see a Quinn on SR, it's generally as a top lane Bruiser.

What I do wonder though is what if she was shipped as a Melee Fighter as in her original concept arts, trading in her crossbow for a pair of daggers? All of her abilities could remain intact as none of them explicitly use the crossbow (though there may be some differences in Vault's interaction with Harrier as jumping at and then away from a target to make them vulnerable and having to jump back at them to proc that would just be silly). Even Sky Strike which implies that she's shooting from above could be explained as throwing knives from above like an aerial Death Lotus. If this was the case and she was fully advertised as a Light Fighter instead of a Marksman/Fighter, would she be more embraced even though it would basically be a large nerf (because what would happen if Irelia or Riven randomly had 525 range instead of 125)?

I think Quinn is a largely untapped champion because she's most commonly compared to the wrong subset of champions. Instead of being seen as a moderately short ranged Marksman, she should be seen as the Caitlyn of top lane.

11 Comments

Hiniel5/8/2014, 10:51:14 AM1 votes

Yeah that concept art was awesome. http://24.media.tumblr.com/f0001a9282ffca661a724c2a8bc11c3c/tumblr_mz0h1geQJW1qa76sgo1_1280.jpg

I sorely wish they had kept that,I would probably have been a lot more interrested in her then.

The Red Warden5/8/2014, 11:39:44 AM1 votes

Eyes of a hawk, that is the reason for her low attack range.

CaptainWednesday5/8/2014, 3:44:10 PM1 votes

She was intended to be a highly mobile melee assassin, but with so many in the meta already I'm kinda glad they made her ranged with the ultimate that can allow you to go melee with Valor. I could not see her being a Fighter per se, but rather a full out Assassin rather than a Bruiser/Fighter. A frail young woman with a bird does not make for the best melee concept.

All and all, I think Quinn needs to be looked over again. She seems weak, but if she gets ahead she's nearly unstoppable. That being said, she is primarily used as a counterpick (against Vayne) in Draft/Ranked, rather than a regular pick. This makes Quinn a very unpopular choice for ADC. Also, her abilities feel awkward (animations). The Q needs to be reexamined. Quinn literally throws Valor like a dart. Her W is only used for the passive, rather than scouting. Her Vault makes things awkward if she is trying to initiate because if you use it to get into a fight, you have no escape. Her ultimate is on a ridiculously high cooldown at the first point. I understand its strong, but 140 seconds? That seems a bit overkill for an ult that's used for engaging 50% of the time and escaping the other 50%. Quinn just needs some good Rito loving in all aspects.

I remember a forum post about how Quinn was going to change the meta. She was going to be the only ADC that could go top, jungle, or bot. This never came to pass because of her awkward kit. I'm not sure what Riot has in store, if anything for Demacia's Wings, but I wish they could tell us something. Quinn was my first and favorite ADC. She is the true Demacian Marksman, but she is treated like a third-rate champion. I'm not sure if I'd like her moving into a light, melee Fighter, but I would like something changed because Quinn just doesn't feel right. As you've said, she rarely sees play like other new champions do. Where is our love for Demacia's Wings? Remember Quinn & Valor. Don't make me get Sarah McLachlan in here for an animal neglect commercial.

PS: Quinn could use a new skin too.

PSS: THEORY ALERT- Valor is a figment of Quinn's imagination, and she is insane. "Valor, to me!" - "Quinn, there's no bird." Maybe Quinn thinks she is Valor and she was melee all along?

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