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What if Tryndamere didn't do double damage on a critical strike?

Critkeeper··2 votes·408 views

Here is what I'm thinking: Tryndamere's critical strikes penetrate 100% of his target's bonus armor, but does 40% reduced damage. In other words, rather than 2AD on a critical strike, Tryndamere does 1.2AD on a critical strike that ignores bonus armor. If he gets an IE, the bonus damage provided by IE would also be reduced by 40%.

Here are what the numbers look like for 500, 750 and 1000 point critical strikes against a target with various amounts of bonus armor and 80 innate armor.


http://i.imgur.com/kVxVivk.jpg

Graphically, with no last whisper: black is current and magenta is proposed damage curve as a function of enemy bonus armor.

http://i.imgur.com/zFyCzfq.jpg

Graphically with a last whisper: black is current and magenta is proposed damage curve as a function of enemy bonus armor.

http://i.imgur.com/QhEdh5k.jpg


In summary this change would greatly diminish Tryndamere's ability to cheese lanes at level 2 or 3, and it would immensely reduce his damage to targets that have very low or no bonus armor, like carries. In fact, he does only 60% of the damage he currently does to squishies with this change.

As a trade off for doing far less damage overall, his damage becomes target agnostic-- it can't be reduced by bonus armor, only innate armor and large amounts of health or damage reducers like attack speed slows can mitigate his damage output directly, though his damage output already reduces itself by 40% for you.

Basically this change makes it so that Tryndamere doesn't really care who he hits, as long as he hits something. He does the same damage number to anyone, so instead of focusing on cheesing squishy carries in team fights as an assassin might, he focuses on just auto attacking as many times as possible regardless of the target as a proper fighter would.

7 Comments

Rambo Tryndamere2 votes

Now I would appreciate it if you would stop insulting one of the only champions I take a lot of competitive pride in. Stop making excuses for your inability to do well with Trynd and get better. or find another main, it sounds like Trynd may not be the best main for you.

Rambo Tryndamere1 votes

It sounds like someone is very pissed off after getting out played by a Tryndamere.

ScruffyScruffz1 votes

the OP is a Tryndamere main.

Rambo Tryndamere2 votes

I know. Critkeeper has a tendency to make a noob of himself.

Critkeeper2 votes

Actually I've played over 3500 Tryndamere games and I foresee him being reworked again soon. I want to make sure they take him down the path that befits his theme-- a barbarian juggernaught. I'm sick of playing him like I would play shaco.

Fiora is being reworked because her theme does not match her gameplay -- she is supposed to be a duelist but she feels like a handgrenade. Poppy is being reworked because her ultimate is very low counterplay and confounds the rest of her kit.

Tryndamere has qualities of both of those champions. He is a barbarian meance but feels like an high dps assassin. His ultimate combined with his high damage output on squishy targets confounds his identity and makes it impossible to keep him balanced as a team fight, so he is relegated to a playstyle that involves staying away from large battles-- something directly in contrast with his identity.

You are welcome to disagree with me. Thats what the upvote / downvote buttons are for.

MagnificenTrynd1 votes

I didn't even realize I was on my smurf, wups.

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