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Using bots for easy XP and IP with cheese tactics.

Mandarr··1 votes·819 views

It seems more often now that people want to use cheese tactics to get a seven minute win against the beginner bots on Twisted Treeline and Dominion. While it is possible to get a seven minute win against players in Dominion, I wonder why it is still so easy to abuse the bots on these modes. Last year we had a change with co-op v AI in customs so that there was a minimum time requirement, and in the case of customs a minimum population requirement, but now, it seems that the issue has returned in another form, which is rushing to win at exactly seven minutes. I have had a few games where someone gets into champion select, and then immediately demands that everyone go bot, pick a marksman, buy item 2040 and then push for a seven minute win on the nose. Why is it that bots cannot be so flexible to change their configuration to match what the players do?

My primary concerns with this are:

New players often get matched with more experienced players when it comes to TT and Dominion bots, because these modes don't have tutorials, and the players in question don't care about teaching them how to play this mode, and only seek a fast win.

The reason for the previous co-op v AI changes were due to smurfs and bots abusing the modes for easy xp/ip gains. This is now just a horse of another color, push to win in seven minutes, for as much experience you can gain withing the cap for bot match gains.

Players playing bots, outside of smurfs and those that play bots as their sole form of enjoyment of this game, are often trying out a champion for the first time, or returning to a champion they have not played in a long time. Seven minutes isn't long to figure out how Anivia if they are unfamiliar with her, or very much time to get back into the swing of things. I feel that this sort of confidence course is somewhat important for players, especially the newer ones. For those that only really play with bots, I imagine that this ruins their enjoyment of the game.

6 Comments

Angry Monster1 votes

People that are rushing 7 minute wins are doing it for WOTD IP. this usuallu happen s only on beginner bots though.

What % actually plays league to play against bots though? Some may doing to figure out the fundamentals of a champ( but if that is your goal you can custom).

I do not think this is a big worry. There are always other avenues.

SirTezla1 votes

To be honest, I've created a account made for me to just go up against bots from a beginner's standpoint. When I start playing the game, I like to fully immerse myself and learn it inside and out. Personally, I don't think that level 30 players should be able to get WOTD IP from a bots game.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

That's not fair though, because while the percentage might be small, there are some players that ONLY play bots. You can't just say "Oh, well screw them because their a smaller demographic." That's Bad Business 101.

SirTezla1 votes

Good point. But, there is only 1 win of the day so it wouldn't kill people to play 1 normals a day just for that.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

But that's the thing: Those people don't want to play a PLAYER VS PLAYER match. They want to play against the AI. They all have their different reasons. Maybe its because of a lack of skill or something, but whatever it is, it really doesn't matter. Would it be fair to force the person who has never played PVP once in their life to play a PVP match--even if they have no desire to? Even if they don't understand the difference between bots and PVP and would end up giving a lot of kills to the enemy team due to the more tactical nature when playing against an intelligent being that can process your actions and respond in a way that s black and white, a part of their programming? It might not be a big deal for YOU to play a normal match, but there is a demographic out there who it would be a big deal for. And since having the wotd isnt hurting anyone, I don't see what the issue is. It's a minimal amount of IP, and you're going to get more IP for playing normal matches.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

And frankly, you're going to get more IP/XP per hour by playing normal matches.

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