PROJECT: Hunters was the only example of Loading Borders done right.

MetaVolca·8/28/2018, 5:44:52 PM·98 votes·21,644 views

Seeing as 8.17 is right around the corner, I wanna talk about something that has always been a topic of controversy in the community - Loading Screen Borders. Originally, these borders were meant to show that you purchased a skin within a short period of time after the skin's release. These were given to you for free, and you kept them forever.

However, as time has gone by, and greed has seemingly risen more and more, borders have started having RP costs attached to them. It first started with the Star Guardian New Horizon event. The 5 new skins were each given a border, but the borders were locked behind bundles that cost an extra 425 RP than what the skin would cost. And as time has moved on, the greed and costs of these borders has just risen more and more.

In this year's Lunar Revel event, 3 new skins were released that all had Loading Screen borders. While this event did have tokens that allowed you to craft borders, these borders cost 64 tokens, and each player was only allowed 96 tokens total from missions. But there was also bundles that included the borders (only other way to get them) and again, 425 RP for these borders.

And then, if we look at the absolute worst example of Border overpricing, look no further than the recent Samsung Galaxy skin collection. 6 new skins were released, each with a matching icon and border. HOWEVER, borders and this time icons as well were locked behind, you guessed it, bundles. These bundles were extra special though, because they cost 890 RP MORE than the skin's pricing - just 35 RP off of Gun Goddess Miss Fortune - an Ultimate skin for crying out loud. This means that these borders alone cost 640 RP. That's fucking insane! And to top it all off, these borders didn't work unless you have the matching Icon equipped.

Now, let's get to the main question - why am I typing all of this? Well the answer is simple. In 8.17, 5 new skins are releasing. High Noon Urgot, Thresh, and Lucian, and Divine Sword Irelia and Enduring Blade Talon. And all of these skins have Loading Screen borders, (Not even different ones, mind you) as pictured below.

https://preview.ibb.co/nxhFYU/Borders.png

So because of A. The lack of missions or an event this patch, and B. The lack of explanation on how to get these borders, we can only assume that these borders will be exactly like the SSG borders. Before the SSG skins actually dropped, there wasn't any word given on how to get their Borders or how much they would cost. Kind of explains why most were angered at the 640 price spike, huh? We don't know how much these will cost, how we can get theme, or even why they all look exactly the same for each series of skins.

Now, to tie in with the title's post. Back in November of last year, the PROJECT: Hunters event dropped. 3 new skins, all with borders. But you know what made these borders different than all the others? You could get all 3 of them FOR FREE. Missions allowed players to get up to 96 PROJECT Tokens, and the 3 borders were included into 1 crafting bundle that only cost 80 Tokens. And this event happened between Star Guardians and Lunar Revel! How could you go from a massive paywall to give people borders, to making them all obtainable to all players for free, and then go back to the shitty paywall system? Were people upset that they could get them for free? Are we Fortnite where players compare skill with how much rare and expensive shit they own?

The PROJECT method of getting borders was hands down the best and most player friendly way of obtaining them. Borders shouldn't have a cost attached to them, especially when they're still only obtainable for a limited time. Before, it was simply "buy the skin before a set date". Now, it's been "Buy the skin before a set date in a bundle with an increased price".

Seriously hoping that from this point forward, the next set of borders - or hell, these borders releasing in 2 days, are gotten the same way that the PROJECT borders were gotten - FOR FREE, as they should be. Even if players have to work for the borders, it's a hell of a lot better than having to shell out more cash and more than likely buying shit we don't want as well. Hope this is taken into consideration for the next event.

TL;DR: PROJECT: Hunters gave skin borders for free to all players, but every event after has had paywalls to obtain them, with prices steadily increasing over time.

33 Comments

Salvor Hardın8/28/2018, 5:52:30 PM41 votes

I just came to say that all the skins borders look ugly to me, I prefer to have the splash-art "Clean".

Riot is pretty greedy with his exclusive chromas in package too.

Resolution8/28/2018, 7:08:16 PM14 votes

Exclusive chromas in bundles is the biggest offender. Not everyone wants to own 5 chromas just to get the one they want. It's not like you still wouldn't get my money for separate purchases.

The SSG skins were horribly overpriced though, it was almost $30 Cad just to own a single skin. Honestly can get entire expansion packs in games for that price.

iGeezy8/28/2018, 7:12:02 PM11 votes

Logged in to upvote. I hate this new system of getting borders and the exclusive chromas, It's completely not consumer friendly forcing someone to spend an extra 5$ or even 10$ for just one chroma and a border.

Jeddite8/28/2018, 6:18:55 PM8 votes

Yeah, the S7 SSG skins are garbage-tier compared to years past (though I bought them, since I gotta "catch 'em all"). Paying extra for borders? No fvcking thanks, Rito James™ (and I already have 653 skins). The original point of these loading screen borders was mostly-pointless "I BOUGHT THESE LIMITED EDITION SKINS WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED BECAUSE I SUPPORT RITO JAMES™" bragging rights. It shouldnt be "LOL I PAID EXTRA FOR THE SAME SKIN LOL LOL GG LOL".

The craftable loading screen borders were marginally acceptable (and as I recall, I did pay extra so that I could get both Lunar Princess Warwick and Lunar Princess Nasus loading screen borders), but this new paradigm shift towards "LOL PAY EXTRA FOR LOADING SCREEN BORDERS LOL LOL" is just more horsesh!t from the Rito James™ marketing department.

Busty Demoness8/28/2018, 11:08:26 PM5 votes

I despise this border bullcrap.

Pretty much the only reason I'll pay for any border is because it's related to an MF skin, only because I love her that much and I still won't ever do it more than once (because there's no reason to support it more than that).

I liked the Project icons when it had to do with hextech loot and was free. Was still a matter of effort, but you weren't required to shell out extra cash.

Modl Ryden l8/28/2018, 8:17:33 PM5 votes

I agree, PROJECT: Hunters did a fantastic job delivering borders. You didn't have to cut through so much crap to get what you want. The event allowed enough special tokens to buy your the 3 borders, and one loot orb. Which I like, events should always grant at least 1 loot orb (this was a design that Riot said they would push forward is to give more opportunities for Orange Essence through events).

However when they went forward with the VS event, they started to go overboard. Then, if you wanted the leniency of crafting the borders for both skins and extra loot orbs, you had to essentially complete all the missions including the dailies. Which was harsh because not everyone could log in everyday let alone have the time to complete the mission, even if those missions were 'ez pz'. It was also around the Pyle release event when they introduced gem bundles and exclusive icon bundles that got a lot of players upset.

SSG skins, I really wanted to buy them and even some of the signatures. But I decided against it because the price tag wasn't worth it at all. You only got updated models, effects, and recalls. The signature borders were just too extra for me and went against the precedence they've put forth from previous Worlds Championship skins. It was when they announced the signature borders that I got really fed up with. Riot essentially whore'd out the players signatures for the sake of topping off the price tag. Even if it was SSG's decision I don't think it was right because that's asking for more money that will get split between both the eSports team and Riot. Both of which are already well established entities. They don't need all that extra money for what some designer put together in 5 minutes using Photoshop.

Now Riot's going headstrong on those gem/exclusive icon bundle sets. Maybe they sold well? Maybe they had high profit margins? But it's starting to feel more and more forced upon. At this point you're not really saving RP when buying bundles, you just spend the RP because 1) you can 2) It has exclusives in it. The RP you saved ended up being RP spent on extra shit you didn't need or stuff no one asked for.

Edit:

The OP oughta be upvoted. I'd really like to hear Riot's reasons for making methods for obtaining borders so convoluted? Why is every event or skin release drastically different than the ones in the past?

Boulderox8/28/2018, 9:20:55 PM4 votes

Can't upvote enough, really wanted SSG Taliyah icon, but DID NOT want the border&signiture to come with it, and it is paywalled... really dumb. miss the project method :) get it early, get the border should be the standard.

RookPusher8/28/2018, 6:45:22 PM3 votes

Riot, as far as I know, is a private company. But as someone who works for a non-profit that attempts to offload some of the full-plate staff with extra revenue to keep the system moving, I'm sympathetic to an organization offering more services.

As for merit based reward, that argument can go straight to hell. We can all make money. We don't all have endless time to grind in game. I'd rather they make money, you make choices, and we all have options.

Deathhawk8888/29/2018, 1:38:28 AM2 votes

If you really want a game where people associate cosmetics with skill, see Team Fortress 2.

XxxKORS4NxxX8/28/2018, 6:08:58 PM2 votes

why

KNÍGHT8/28/2018, 9:03:42 PM2 votes

The thing is that you can not remove them or attach them.... Nor u can change them... That's what angers me...

First they make them obtainable by free way after the SSG they make them payable...

Why da hell would you make them payable if you can't even remove them? and it's not like every skin's border is aligned perfectly with a skin itself...

They are always more greedier.. it's not like they don't have enough of billions already... and they are crying that they can't do this and that... but they have more than enough money for whole game to be remade if necessary...

Sukishoo8/28/2018, 9:36:15 PM2 votes

I didn't think they were too bad with the SG event but now that their price has increased even more it's like WHY? Like the SSG skins, all the "border" was is actually a Signature.. nothing else, just a name written across the splash. And they wanted 640 for that, along with an icon for up to 890?!

Jerry SeinfeId8/29/2018, 3:18:41 PM2 votes

honestly they should just be given to whoever buys the skin week 1. they'd still be free but it would incentivize more purchases during the first week of sales.

panty raider8/29/2018, 4:09:39 PM2 votes

So I'm probably gonna get downvoted into oblivion cuz boards but Riot is a company and they need to make money, if you don't agree with what they're charging you for borders, don't buy the skin w/ border, I don't think the border adds anything to the skin but it doesn't subtract from the skin if you don't have it either. If you really want the border I don't think you should mind paying for it, after all, its just another cosmetic part of what is already a cosmetic.

SpyKayle8/29/2018, 4:24:54 PM2 votes

The borders have gotten ridiculous. I remember when they had a hard on for hextech events, like snowdown 2016 and such. Honestly though, those went down the drain quickly because of how greedy they fucking got. The project 2016 hextech chests were the best, then they ruined it. Also Gun Goddess is cheaper than the other ultimate skins, mostly because it's hot garbage, but I see your point. It's pretty ridiculous to have such a high spike in price for just some damn borders.

EasternBladeStar8/29/2018, 6:14:35 PM2 votes

Y'know people, they wouldn't be doing this crap if they weren't sure there's tons of people with their wallets already open for any proposal.

Sad, but true.

SaltiestSandwich8/29/2018, 8:31:15 PM2 votes

Tbh I only bought the SSG Taliyah skin with border because it is her first skin since release. Just to make it something a little special.

Potato Doc8/29/2018, 8:32:23 PM2 votes

Agreed, the boarders should be incentive to buy in the moment instead of waiting for a discount, not as something extra to buy.

Jeddite8/29/2018, 4:14:13 PM1 votes

Whoa ... thank Jebus somebody pointed out that companies exist to make money. That probably crossed exactly zero minds ... ever!

I Smell Pizza8/29/2018, 12:27:04 AM1 votes

kinda over buying skins... I get that's how they make money but damn its not even doing anything. I only get a skin now if I am really into the concept or design. some of them look amazing, but just a loading screen flair?? please

Larriet8/29/2018, 5:25:49 AM1 votes

and this time icons as well

I am here to point out that exclusive icons with borders have been a thing since PROJECT: Disruption. So Star Guardians, Lunar Guardians, SSG, GGMF, VS 2018 all had icons exclusive to these bundles (the borders are "linked" to the icon now).

And to top it all off, these borders didn't work unless you have the matching Icon equipped.

This, however, is false. You do not need the icon equipped for the border to show up on ANY skins. Just fact checking here; not making any points with this part of the post.

I do want to say the SSG skins are an exception; as of now, we shouldn't expect anything to be that expensive. Price is a form of exclusivity, and some people feel that showing "I like this champion/skin so much that I paid a little extra" is meaningful. In the case of the SSG skins, someone with the Signature Edition is showing off how much they're a superfan of the player because they were willing to shell out some extra cash that very few people would because it's so expensive.

I agree that they should be free, though. If a new skin comes out (and it isn't Legacy, i.e. holiday or eSports), then players have two options: buy it right away at full price or wait for the sale. Paying full price and getting the border is prestigious enough IMO; paying extra for the border feels tacky.

Thanks for this. I only get skins for a small handful of champions, but cosmetic & thematic stuff is why I'm into this game, so every skin is a big deal to me. I am upset at them costing extra, although I admit I'll admit I don't personally mind it enough to not get them. I can't help but feel a bit sad for a couple friends of mine who love Lucian Irelia and will have to spend a bit extra for them. One of them doesn't even have League installed right now, he just doesn't want to miss out on the Irelia border when he starts up again in the future.

Sihari8/29/2018, 5:34:53 AM1 votes

Yea, i was really pissed when I wanted to buy Starguardian Soraka and the matching Icon. Not only did I have to buy a bundle to get the icon, no, i also had to pay 120 RP on top for the border I really didnt care about... That was the first time I was angry after looking at the shop.

The second time was, when they made a super cute Icon only available in a bundle with a ridiculusly overpriced gemstone...

I really hate how they lock things that you could purchase seperatly in the past behind bundles now. And like... Its not even cheaper anymore when I buy things in a bundle. No, I now have to pay more, for things that should be goodies for those who spend a greater amount of money at once. >.<

Vlada Cut8/29/2018, 1:19:20 PM1 votes

Or the fact if you have ine PROJECT: Hunters skin you'd get boards for the other two. I still think we need an option to turn them off tho, seeing so much purple on Project Vayne splashart + the purple board make me feel like I'm playing Lulu sometimes. :V

Don Lupus8/29/2018, 6:32:13 PM1 votes

As much as I dislike money-greedy stuff ... the ONLY reason to have a border is to show off. They look bad, noone even really cares for them and you only buy them to brag. So I have no problem with rito making them expensive If you wanna show off, you have to think about whether it's worth it or not. I prefer them making extra money out of ugly stuff like borders that only attention-seekers would want instead of trying to milk "normal" players for skins or icons.

zPity8/29/2018, 10:24:00 PM1 votes

i can agree with some of the points here; however, it should be mentioned when the re-work a champion you essentially get a new champ with all skins redone (for free if you already own) also, you don't pay a monthly membership, and you don't pay any money to play this game (client, servers, etc) you get a great product for free. sounds like whining to me, but i think it would be great for riot to let you earn "boarders"