Moving forward with pax in the past.

Automated Riven·9/7/2018, 7:33:27 PM·5 votes·1,571 views

Hey guys, This has been a pretty shitty week. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me. I can't even explain how it's effected me. And I initially reacted like a child (I may or may not have edited a specific quote refuring to sea mammals into Daniel kliens wiki page) and later on in the week I feel I managed to respond to things more like a rational adult.

Before I go farther, I want this thread to address the actual issues. But I also want it to be a place where ideas can come to life about how to be better in the future. We have come across a huge fork in the road where we are offered a choice. Fall down and give up; or band together, help each other, get up, and get better. I personally vote for the latter.

So, we are going to make the assumption in this thread that riot is not sexist, they don't hate men, and they were trying to do the right thing and simply fucked up. (I am going to take a second to ask, if your unwilling to operate under this assumption or benifit of the doubt, please pass by and drop a downvote if you feel so inclined.)

Now, a few things I have learned from the last 9 years I have played this game and lurked on these forums.

  1. We will never not be considered the most toxic gaming community, and
  2. We are some of the smartest and most creative people in gaming.

So let's hear it. How can we move forward, accepting that riot fucked up and and overcorrected. In an attempt to combat sexism riot excluded a bunch of people unfairly.

Let's use this to brainstorm how we can ensure that we are inclusive equally, ensuring nobody ever gets passed over based on their gender/gender identity/race in this community again.

I firmly believe that if we, the community and company, band together. We can truly make magic happen.

26 Comments

HalcyonDweller9/7/2018, 8:35:41 PM3 votes

I think that if they want to do these sorts of panels that are primarily for women, they should just have the panel to be open to all but be about women in gaming. That way anybody can attend, but their target audience will be the one most interested in attending.

This would bypass the whole issue while still being better at encouraging women in the industry.

TheSnowyLeopard9/7/2018, 8:24:58 PM1 votes

I like positivity, and keeping an open mind, not very good at it all the time but, I try. I dont know how i feel about excluding men, but we havent really tried it before, and as a man that angers me to be excluded, but as a person I dont think its a horrible idea to give it a shot. As for the community issue, meh, competition brings out the worst of people and IN people. If nothing else, if you cant learn to not be toxic, learn to be patient.

I Love Thresh9/7/2018, 8:44:02 PM1 votes

Regarding the sexism part, I don't think the community has anything to do, it started as an issue within Riot, not within the playerbase.

420 grams9/7/2018, 8:51:15 PM1 votes

Let's just not try to welcome females into the professional gaming community anymore. Apprently it's not wanted.

Risk of Fate9/7/2018, 9:16:44 PM1 votes

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