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Short Off-Meta Story that the Nightblue situation reminded me of...

Yordle Xayah·6/15/2019, 3:59:35 AM·40 votes·12,553 views

A while ago I was in a ranked game, and after I locked in Twitch, the Support player said something along the lines of:

"Hey Twitch, I'm duo with Top. Play safe and trust us"

So I got myself TP, some sustain runes, and since Twitch rushes BorK, I just decided I'd try to freeze the wave as best as I could, sustain and TP back to lane and just let the duo do their thing. I'm pretty sure they went something like Gragas+Morde, Gragas+Malph or Gragas+Something.

We were on Blue Side and nobody really seemed upset with anybody and as the game started, I think I was against Thresh+Sivir (maybe). Not sure about ADC but I do remember Thresh well. About 3 mins in, Gragas and friend get FB in Top, and not long after, the enemy Jungler was trying to help his Top, but farm his Red Jungle at the same time. Because of this, my friendly Jungler started invading his Blue side and camping Mid.

I was just farming under tower and if I ever was poked too hard, I'd just TP back (must have been once or twice max) and once I had Vamp Scepter, farming under the tower became really easy. Also, because our Mid was being camped, they also got a lead. Soon after, because of the Mid/Top advantages we were also able to secure Herald, which let Top push I think two towers. Bot finally responds Top so I just take their tower after a recall.

After we won and the game was over, got two honors from the Top Duo and a "Thank you :)" or something like that.

I've been reading around that the Teemo player from the Nightblue story is actually a bit of a jerk, but don't think he's actually trolling, and I think the distinction should be made. Off-Meta strats can work, and the better attitude you have towards them, the better the game will go. That said, you shouldn't behave like an ass if your team doubts your strange strat.

Like I commented in one of the many posts about the situation, I think the Teeto and Nightblue kinda deserve each other. I think both could have handled the situation better.

21 Comments

Yordle Gunner6/15/2019, 4:03:46 AM25 votes

It isn't for single players or even Riot employees to decide what is meta. People need to understand that. Also spread this image. Because Nightblue3 isn't the only person at fault. https://imgur.com/a/dVw6HcF#YEwGir7

Around999People6/15/2019, 4:09:01 AM22 votes

My issue with the whole scenario isn't that the teemo was punished. If he did a shitty thing he deserved it. But if he got punished because Night made a fuss then it's an issue.

And furthermore, the rioter ignored Nights own trolling and rule breaking which is what bothers me the most.

XJ999999999999996/15/2019, 4:04:50 AM12 votes

i honestly dont care what my team does as long as

they play to win
they inform me of it

just dont take a role or double jungle. and im fine. supporting is fine even if it's a roam/top sup

Glaricion6/15/2019, 7:15:51 AM2 votes

Totally beside the point, but out of curiosity, did you insta-lock Twitch or something?

Nothing wrong with having a player 1v2 a game, but you should be giving them a heads up so that they can pick the best champion for the job.

haaaaaaalp6/15/2019, 5:13:28 AM2 votes

I think this is where we have to make a distinction between off-meta and soft inting. If someone is a roaming teemo main who got to his elo bracket playing that playstyle, there is nothing wrong with his playstyle. If someone plays standard to get to his elo and then shifts to another playstyle they know they are not as good at when teamed with streamers to get attention, that is a form of soft inting and those players need to be made an example of.

That being said, I haven't been keeping up with the drauma much. Has anyone gone onto op.gg and tracked the player in question to find out what he normally plays.

MessyStuff6/16/2019, 1:13:09 AM2 votes

The only thing is that this guy only does it around high profile streamers(trying to troll them) and doesn't do in other games. This fact is the one that proved to me that both were in the wrong.

MintyMizu6/15/2019, 2:39:14 PM1 votes

I mean like I know what u mean Op. I played illaoi support mid for my duo and we won lane. I even roamed top and bot(Bot was solo). I got all lanes ahead and everyone was chill about.

14daysuspensionk6/16/2019, 9:54:44 PM1 votes

While he sounds like a bit of a jerk form the clips. If anything, he seemed more frustrated with the fact that people weren't respecting what he did rather than just calling him a jerk.

xox BaByDoLL xox6/15/2019, 7:36:40 AM1 votes

Okay your Story Time made me wanna share my own off-meta Story, even though it's from another game!

So, no idea if anyone here plays, or knows much about, a game called Overwatch.....

Anyways, there's a hero on that game called Symmetra. She's generally considered a bad or troll pick outside of niche scenarios - like defending a point. I don't main her, but I do like to play her sometimes, especially when defending.

So I was in a competitive match(like Ranked here), and we're defending point A, no one is mad at me for being on her......but when the enemy team caps the point and it turns into a payload map for the second push - something Symmetra is not as viable on to the masses - a teammate of ours dies and flames tf out of me for being on Symmetra still. I told them I'd switch when I ulted or died, which is what most people do in that situation - they don't run back and switch mid fight, or kill themselves with their ult, they ult first. Dude flamed me the entire time I was using my ult, he was pissed that I didn't just immediately switch when he said to. I said nothing and while my ult was up I got a few kills to finish off the ppl still alive on the enemy team, mind you the enemy team wasn't countering me at all. After my ult dropped I said "before i switch lets try to team wipe them again" and I put a bunch of turrets outside their spawn door (It's a Symmetra thing, super fun.....lol) and as expected this team - which was playing pretty absentmindedly - walked right into the turrets and between my weapon, the turrets, and my team, they all died again minus one. So I switched heroes after that, the guy continued to flame me the entire rest of the game, calling me an idiot and what not, mad as hell that I didn't switch when HE wanted me to......even though we were winning.

Then at the end of the game, after we won, these were the acknowledgment cards that popped up:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7xNMy2XsAAFfPG.jpg

He suddenly lost his voice....lol

So why am I rambling about another game?** BECAUSE STORY-TIME IS FUN! **No seriously, I'm trying to agree with the point made by OP - that going off-meta is not synonymous with trolling and should not be thought as such. People, such as Night, can get so insanely bent out of shape if someone plays an off-meta character or in a way that isn't the norm....and that's not okay, his irrational reactions cross lines in toxicity that none of the rest of us would be able to get away with him. His name recognition, and "Riot Friend" shouldn't mean he's exempt from ever facing consequences for being toxic.

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My issue with the whole scenario isn't that the teemo was punished. If he did a shitty thing he deserved it. But if he got punished because Night made a fuss then it's an issue.

And furthermore, the rioter ignored Nights own trolling and rule breaking which is what bothers me the most.

SAME!

If it was proven that the Teemo did, or said, anything against the rules then fine, punish him. But do not give Night - who acted like a petulant toxic child - a complete pass on offenses that the rest of us would get banned for, no matter WHO started it, just because he has a special "Riot Friend."