Before you enter the memotions contest...

sardonisms·7/10/2018, 1:52:28 AM·45 votes·13,754 views
Check out the Champ Memotions Contest!

This is the grant of rights you're signing. I've chopped out the less concerning bits and bolded and italicized the red-alert phrases. Translation below.

Each Entrant shall retain its ownership interest in and to its Entry. However, in consideration for the opportunities provided herein, each Entrant (or, in the event the Entrant is a minor, the Entrant’s respective parent or legal guardian) hereby grants Sponsor, and its agents, affiliates, successors, and assigns, a perpetual, irrevocable, universal, non-exclusive, fully-paid and royalty-free, sub-licensable and transferable license to use, edit, modify, distribute, and commercially exploit the Entry in any manner and for any purpose.

...Sponsor reserves the right, but not the obligation, to use the Entry for any purpose, including, but not limited to, posting, commercial sales, reproduction, disclosure, advertising and promotional activities, distribution, transmission, publication, and broadcast. Sponsor reserves the right to use any ideas, concepts, knowledge, or techniques contained in the Entry for any purpose, including, but not limited to, developing and marketing products and/or services using such information, and each Entrant acknowledges and understands there shall be no further payment, consideration, royalties or other compensation from Sponsor, its agents, affiliates or assigns for any use of said Entry or the content therein pursuant to this Grant of Rights.

... In the event an Entry is deemed a prize winner of this Contest, the Entrant further agrees that it shall not seek to market, distribute, sell, sublicense, or otherwise commercially exploit the Entry in any form or manner without the express prior written permission of the Sponsor.

For those who may not have spent several years following publishing news, this is a very concerning grant of rights. In plain English, it means once you enter, Riot has the right to do WHATEVER THEY WANT with your work, up to and including selling it. Even if you don't win. And you get nothing, and they owe you nothing. (Oh, if you don't win, you can attempt to publish/submit it somewhere else. I guess that's something.)

Why is this important? Well, think about what the contest is asking for. Look at the art at the top of the page. Riot is basically asking you to design emotes. And if they like it, and other people like it (the first round of judging is a popularity contest), then they can do what they want with it, including "commercially exploit it"--that is, sell it as a real emote in the shop for real RP, without paying you even with a copy of the emote.

Will they do that? We don't know. But according to the entry rules, they have the RIGHT to do it. And that's concerning. The contract isn't there for when everything is going fine. The contract is there for when $#!+ hits the fan. The contract should be read and agreed to as though ten minutes after signing, both parties will be hit by a truck, and the fallout will be negotiated by your vindictive next-of-kin, who hate both you and each other.

Now, you may not consider this a problem. Maybe you don't like emotes anyway, so getting one for free doesn't matter to you even if you designed it. Maybe, since it's fanart and some people can knock this stuff out in ten minutes or less, the effort it takes you is little enough you don't mind. Maybe it's worth it to you to just have people look at your art.

But you have to understand. I don't want anyone going in blind. If you decide to do it anyway, that's okay. But really ask yourself, in the absolute best case scenario, where you win, are you okay with never posting this? With never sharing it? And in the absolute worst case, where you win and Riot exploits all the rights in this, are you okay with potentially seeing that emote in the store, which you can't afford/don't want to pay for, knowing that you signed away the right to argue?

37 Comments

L Psy Kongroo7/10/2018, 2:49:45 AM17 votes

For the people who win this contest, it's more about pride and a sense of accomplishment than any physical prizes. You get to say, to yourself and others, "The art I drew was so good, a multi-billion dollar company selected it out of thousands of other entries to be represented in their extremely popular game." Basically you get bragging rights.

Additionally, if you're an up-and-coming artist in some form or another, you can use this win to boost your status and credibility within the art community. Your name will be more widely recognized, and that alone, as an aspiring artist, is worth a hell of a lot.

BlueVestGuy7/10/2018, 2:10:55 AM14 votes

Yeah I mean that's not new or anything P sure that's in the base ToS They own the characters after all Not sure why people find the need to point that part out again at every opportunity they have

thecowley7/11/2018, 2:05:34 AM3 votes

Guys this is normal for any contest of creation. I uderstand not wanting to do something and be blind to the implications/rules, but this is very, very normal. More importantly, they are giving things away as well.

For comparison, I remember reading an old DC comics interview (probably around 2005ish?) that brought up fan submitted ideas, in thinks like letters to writers/artist. At least for DC (and assumingly other comics) they cant use any idea that was submitted by a fan. I know people are gonna ask for a source, so ill go looking for it again.

Smitty Manjensen7/10/2018, 9:55:19 AM3 votes

Meanwhile, DE, the devs of Warframe actually pay you a cut of the skins you designed, if they were chosen to be sold in the shop.

Nsane7/10/2018, 1:33:44 PM2 votes

Why is this surprising? That's the way it is with pretty much every "make a thing" contest ever.

ChroniclerC7/10/2018, 2:35:39 AM2 votes

Well, yeah. I took one look at the contest page and was all "Oh, they're crowdsourcing their emote art." Kind of scummy to hide that kind of rights transfer in the fine print of the application rules, but par for the course these days. Still, good of you to point it out. ^_^

Jeddy0177/10/2018, 2:38:12 PM1 votes

Hmmm, okay. Thanks, that's good to know. Now if you excuse me, I have to get back to thinking of some concepts for this contest.

Boulderox7/10/2018, 3:05:21 PM1 votes

When trust in riot is so low, even the contests are swept with a fine toothed comb...

KoKoboto7/10/2018, 3:23:06 PM1 votes

Good thing I can't draw! :^)

:^(

DuskDaUmbreon7/10/2018, 5:18:25 PM1 votes

So? This is art of their characters. Technically, they could say you're not even allowed to do the art in the first place, and sue you for copyright infringement if you did anyways.

Riot - and any company or person - has full rights to put any restrictions they want on their characters. If they say they can use your art of their creation for advertising, they sure as fuck can, if it was in the original signage.

And that's basically what it is. It's saying whether or not you win or lose the contest, they can use your art for future emotes, icons, advertising, merch, or anything legal.

GenoXx7/10/2018, 5:39:29 PM1 votes

I didn't even know about this contest! I'm definitely entering this. I'm always doing art of other things that I never seem to do any of my favorite game.

Zac x Me7/10/2018, 5:59:39 PM1 votes

^ FUN AND LEAGUE DON'T GO TOGETHER, IF YOU WOULD PLAY YOUR OWN GAME YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AHHHHH STOP FEEDING YASUO WTF GO EAT A SANDWICH

jocomotion7/10/2018, 6:38:22 PM1 votes

As and now thanks to you I’m going to participate in this since I didn’t even know it was a thing. K thaaaaaanks.

Z0lrakc7/10/2018, 7:31:12 PM1 votes

Thank you for making people aware [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ModIts Yuu and Mi7/11/2018, 12:47:39 AM1 votes

It's good to be aware of this however Riot themselves basically dont have much of a choice.

You have to look at it from the perspective of both parties. Them not having full rights to a contest entry could cause problems, same with basically suggestions. As someone else pointed out in this thread, so many people could suggest similar things that it could get into big issues.

Also I do agree that normally, under normal circumstances, "Recognition" is not a valid form of payment. I think this would be the exception to the rule; getting to say that Riot Games is using it is actually a pretty big way to get people to consider you over others, vs randomdude8547 or smallmomandpopshop228 "giving you recognition".

But yes. You are making an emote, for them. You are making a product, for them. There is nothing stopping you, at all, from doing something similar without doing it for them. There are a LOT of League artists who do commissions, both SFW and NSFW. If your art is good, you will find buyers.

So chances are, if you are entering this, either A) you -need- your name out there or B) It's a pride thing.

Them not having that clause could bite them in the ass later because having to negotiate sales with a player gets into bad territory real quick.

Edit: I did upvote the thread for awareness, however. It's good for people to know what they're getting into. I dont think it's a bad thing however.

Dangerous Man7/10/2018, 7:12:18 AM1 votes

When they say selling I think that could be just in cased they want to make a monetized video on it or be able to show (accidentally or purposefully) it in a stream without legal issues.

If they're going to make emotes or something, they have artists and people to do that so there's no point in them consistently using fan-made stuff for their use. Also who the fuck would expect to get paid for an art entry in an emote contest (when it doesn't state a monetary prize)? It's pretty obvious what they're doing and it's pretty obvious what you're getting into. You can't throw a sandwich at a homeless guy's head and not expect him to eat it.

Besides, the winners do get a ton of shit, they should be glad that you can get all this stuff from Riot just for a good sketch. Probably worth a good chunk of the money made from the emote anyway while still being income for a company of over a thousand and allowing to upkeep servers.

You make Riot seem like an asshole for needing money, but they need to make lots of money all the time to really keep themselves stable and on top. GIving away over $10k worth of prizes is the least you could complain about.

NekoniClaws7/10/2018, 11:40:40 AM1 votes

Yes, be wary of these rights when you see them--- but Riot is NOT going to exploit their entrants here, I want that to be VERY CLEAR.

The entries to this contest are NOT going to be in a commercially usable DPI. Riot has literally no way -nor need- to exploit these artworks. Don't expect to see them on t-shirts or gracing artbooks. They're simply covering their asses for stuff like websites and displays.

Artists should learn that this is a common thing, and you can be exploited with these rights, but I don't want Riot to be vilainized unnecessarily.