Why is smurfing not bannable? (CONTEXT)

My Remedy·3/12/2019, 5:27:04 AM·1 votes·1,116 views

If a smurf feeds in your ranked game, cuz smurfing...look at the person's ip and ban their main. The player is toxic. They are ruining people's games simple because it doesn't affect their main. Punish them for it. Why remove positional ranking if people troll because it doesn't affect their rank, and not treat smurfing similarly. I'm tired of seeing unfair matches, because, yes, I am not a god at this game. I never will be. But I sure as hell don't want to lose simply because the game was already majorly stacked against me.

Edit: I definitely needed to add more detail to this. When im talking toxic, I mean intentionally feeding, chat logs of them saying it doesnt matter. The issue is not smurfing as a whole but the toxic result it can frequently create. If the smurf is toxic on the smurf, penalize the main as well.

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Hotarµ3/12/2019, 5:36:10 AM5 votes

Because realistically speaking, there is no way to crack down on smurfing.

IP bans do nothing because:

IP addresses can be changed within a matter of minutes
Once an IP address is changed, there's a chance that address can bounce to another person. This means that if someone is IP banned, they can change their IP to ignore the punishment and there's a chance that another League player will receive the banned IP.
VPNs exist, circumventing IP bans even further.
IP addresses can be shared between households, schools, internet cafes, and more locations. This means that if one person gets banned at a college or internet cafe, everyone at that location will be unable to play. On top of this, I read somewhere that it costs money to change these static IP addresses, causing further detriment to innocent people.

It's almost impossible to crack down on smurfs in game because of the simple question:

How exactly, without fail, do you 100% accurately determine if someone is a smurf? If I played well on my main and performed at a Plat level but in an Iron game, should I be banned for it? What about if I just had a string of games where I got carried or splitpushed to victory, should I get banned for those?

There's just no surefire way to deal with smurfs. I'm not aware of how other games deal with them (if they do) but I can't see it being possible on League.

Lillithium853/12/2019, 5:42:42 AM4 votes

This also assumes all smurfs are trolling/toxic. One of the things I hate most are people just getting into bot games so they can harass new players. I feel you, because I am not a good gamer, but I LOVE IT, and it helps this grown-up relax after a bad life, er, day. If I'm in a bot game, it's because i know I'm sucking that day, or I want to practice the mechanics on a champ I don't understand. If I need to do it on a smurf account so the game doesn't last 5 minutes, then why punish me? Just a different perspective. Also, I'm a bit of an anarchist and don't care much for making the good suffer while the bad STILL do their thing.

GLHF

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Red Mage FTS3/12/2019, 5:44:03 AM3 votes

It also puts the issue on the concept of smurfing rather then the behaviour it creates.

I have 2 accounts, one a main that I own everyone on, and one a smurf that I only own my champs that I play on. I use the smurf to dodge games, and the main one I play with freinds or in off roles. In every game I play my ass off, and even when I am tilted I try and win. I got one chatban once waaaaaay back in the day and since then both accounts have been clean. By your logic, the fact I own two so that I can still play when I dodge games and minimize my LP loss makes me a bad guy dispite me doing all I can to the contrary.

What needs to happon is a stronger ban for trolling behaviour, rather then multiple accounts. I played a game the other day with a troll, who was a gold smurf in my bronze game. I have watched both the accounts he gave me, his gold is sitting doing nothing, and his other account has about a 20% winrate. I submited a ticket to riot, and got the generic we are watching responce. Since then, I have seen him ruin at least 30 more games. It is clear enough but there is no "escilate" ability.

Amamahdeth3/12/2019, 7:33:29 AM2 votes

1: "Smurfing" is an imaginary construct. No player has any advantage or disadvantage over any other player because of a ranking. Period.

2: Most smurfs are playing on those accounts because riot has temporarily banned their mains.

#themoreyouknow