Why can't I critique somebody unless I'm as good or better than them?

Wes the Mess·11/12/2017, 5:42:36 AM·4 votes·624 views

I try and tell people every single account on NA through rank one is bad until a team wins worlds and they say nah they're good you're just making excuses when they're in Plat V and only competent on 2 champions.

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Chermorg11/12/2017, 5:44:43 AM3 votes

I mean, idc if you're bronze 5 or challenger. Please critique me. I want to improve and I've been working on it.

Anyone who tries to say otherwise is a fool. The one who thinks he knows everything just doesn't know what he doesn't know.

passıon11/13/2017, 2:25:21 AM2 votes

Calling people bad isn't criticism, it's just rude. Camille

The Lord Cookie11/12/2017, 8:19:10 AM2 votes

You can critique anyone you want.

Not everyone is going to be receptive of criticism, however.

ZenithEevee11/12/2017, 10:02:36 PM2 votes

every single account on NA through rank one

? ? ?

ADC Bard11/13/2017, 2:22:37 AM2 votes

because you're so bad you don't know why you are bad. How can you know what's bad about someone higher elo when you can't fix your own problems ?

Bard

EkyonKun11/12/2017, 1:44:35 PM1 votes

I mean. You're free to critique anyone you want for individual blunders. But to say that all of NA is bad because no teams have won worlds yet is like saying all of Korea is good because they have had teams win worlds. The argument you make just doesn't make any sense.

Pluto Nash11/12/2017, 8:46:30 AM1 votes

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Cynicatt11/12/2017, 8:30:17 AM1 votes

I mean you can... but they're probably not going to listen to you unless you have a badge to prove you've got the skills to pay the bills.

Bronze 5 Teeto11/12/2017, 8:33:47 AM1 votes

As a teemo one trick whose best account is plat 4, yeah i know i make a ton of mistakes in my games. But despite that, I've still made it to the top 6% of players. I'm not "bad" per se. Worse than diamond players by far, way way worse than pro players, but "bad"-- not exactly.

For sure people will much more likely respond to concrete criticisms like "the baron is free we're way ahead. plz dont go bot to split when u have no tp. we need you to teamfight and get the baron to close out the game" kind of stuff than "you're a mother fucking idiot why the fuck are you bot with no tp when we should be forcing the god damn game ur just stalling this fucking shit out and throwing the game cuz u don't use ur brain 50% of the time plat 5 garbage shithole".

I mean idk how ur trying to give criticism or something but ya know, just some thoughts.

Myrmiron11/12/2017, 7:15:32 AM1 votes

I'm Diamond. No back talk!

But seriously, you can critique me however you want. However, I know how bad I am. So I can't really take critique seriously by people who aren't higher ranked than me, since they are at the very least as bad as I.

ZerglingOne11/12/2017, 6:01:45 AM1 votes

You may be theoretically much better than you are physically. As is the case with me (especially the last year/year and a half) and even though I'm not playing anymore, I used to be much much better than I am now.

I would say you are theoretically better than you play if you can recognize good play and separate it from bad play.

I would absolutely take critiques or advice, even from a lower tier player on my play, simply because they just might know something I don't when they're on the outside of a game looking in. Just watch any stream. When people have the information and aren't in the stressful situation of playing the game, they're much more tactically and strategically aware. These are people who are probably majority bronze/silver that, without the stress of a game are thinking like people in platinum or diamond. You see it literally all the time.

My physical coordination and reaction time was kind of obliterated by 18 months of depression that started about 3 years ago. And I haven't really recovered much of that aspect. It's utterly infuriating when your body can no longer keep up with your brain. Something as simple as "Okay, if Malphite ults, I have my finger on the flash key ready to dodge." and then fucking it up is demoralizing and indicative that I'd probably never be good at the game again. I could probably never climb out of silver now because the hands just can't keep up with the brain anymore.

There was a disconnect that happened when I turned 27 and I so far have never gained it back.

Mystic Blue Fox11/12/2017, 9:06:46 AM

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I try and tell people every single account on NA through rank one is bad until a team wins worlds and they say nah they're good you're just making excuses when they're in Plat V and only competent on 2 champions.

Critiquing is something that is always okay, given the context of the situation, but there is some merit to one's own level of skill in regards to it. It is important to remember that not all are willing to accept advice or criticism.

I would recommend asking others in advance if they are okay with your criticism unless they themselves ask for advice or input.