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You aren’t allowed to have a bad game in league of legends

HateDaddy·2/3/2020, 4:36:17 PM·157 votes·47,968 views

When I say this, I don’t mean that Riot will punish you. To the contrary, this is not Riots issue at all. It is 100% an issue of the player base and a constant misuse of language that has evolved into a subtle way to flame players for having bad games.

I’ll use my game last night. I went 1/7 on Olaf against Sett. I have played against Sett once before. Once. Yes, I know what he does but knowing what a champion does and having experience playing against them is not the same thing. I figured I had an advantage in the lane, and I most certainly did. I blew his flash level 1, but then I got ganked. Happens, I made a mistake. I overstayed. Then I began lagging, and I come back to lane and literally get trapped in my minion wave to the point where Sett starts attacking me and I can’t even retaliate. I die. I come back to lane, I kill him. From then on, I just keep getting ganked or misplay, either due to poor play or lag. After 1/3, I decide I’m not going to die anymore and give my team a chance to carry me. Then I proceed to get camped and dove, and the eventually finishes with me being 1/7.

My whole team is flaming me. I don’t really care about stuff like “what’s this guys elo??? Boosted??? Easy!!!” I do, however, have a problem with players questioning my integrity as a player and claiming I’m “inting,” “soft inting,” “or trolling.” By the way, the enemy set accused me of “trolling” and “soft inting,” meanwhile this guys regularly has games where he has 15+ deaths - which is the line where you can legitimately begin questioning whether someone is intentionally feeding at that point. That’s neither here nor there, but it’s amusing at the least.

Here’s the problem with the aforementioned language above. Players have gotten to the point where they use the report system and the parameters of the report system to describe what is usually nothing more than bad play as “intentionally feeding,” “griefing (whatever the hell that actually means),” etc. In reality, players are just having bad games. Yes, i am aware that there are people that will go around the rules and do things to feed but seem legit. But that does not happen nearly as much as you think it does. What’s more likely is you feel mad about someone losing a lane to the point where you can’t win, so the community being the vindictive pieces of shit that they are, they propose to report someone because it makes them feel better about the loss. It relieves them of any personal responsibility in the loss, so they can rationalize the loss by blaming a “soft inting player,” etc. In reality, it is the opposite: it’s a way to actually flame a player having a bad game without being punished by the ban system for actual griefing and flaming. The irony is not lost on me here. What’s worse is that this is what devalues the report system more, because it’s hard to get a real account of what happens when people report innocuous activity (a player having a bad game) so they can feel better about themselves and remove any personal responsibility of the loss.

In short, y’all need to chill the fuck out. People have bad games. It happens. Y’all make this game unfun, and this is why people hate this community so much. I am a busy dude. I cherish the free time I get for myself, and I usually use that free personal time to ply video games. The last thing I want to do is play a game, not do so well (which is frustrating enough in its own right) and then be flamed by a bunch of socially awkward hormonal teenagers that wear pants that are so tight, if they farted their shoes would explode. Okay, that line was to make me feel better (irony). Anyway, chill out and stop making peoples playing experience miserable.

139 Comments

Agent Corgi2/3/2020, 5:05:01 PM33 votes

By Riots standards, having a Bad Game isn't against the TOS. However, the community is so against having "Bad Games" that they will flame the absolute shit out of you as though you're doing it all on purpose. It more or less discourages people from actually wanting to play/learn the game & gives our community a bad rep as one of the most toxic communities out there.

I feel like in order to have fun, you gotta tune people out & just focus on your ability to play with the cards the game deals out. If you ever have a bad game, Learn something from that & do better next time (this applies to everyone).

VeN0M1012/3/2020, 4:44:06 PM26 votes

I can’t upvote this enough

Kythers2/3/2020, 5:44:37 PM15 votes

It's like people think they are entitled to win every game and that any sort of hardship is a personal attack

There is so much cognitive bias when it comes to this too, if you play like trash but your team carries you then there's no problem God forbid if the opposite happens though

There's definitely some sort of addictive/obsessive behavior associated with this, it can't be healthy. It's like they need their perfect game to happen or they don't get their fix

It also baffles me that elo boosting isn't a reportable offence when it's plainly obvious when it happens half the time

Seekêr2/3/2020, 5:07:47 PM8 votes

The irony is that the report system perpetuates this. People quickly scream "troll" from the rooftops and it doesnt help that 2 of the reportable options should not be there. Giving up is a human trait and completely up to the player who is tilting. If they stop performing consistently but are not inting or trolling, this shouldnt be a reportable offense.

Highwiseene2/3/2020, 5:44:50 PM8 votes

You aren't allowed to do anything except follow exactly what your teammates expect of you to a tee at every point of the game. You have to be able to match every roam, you have to be able to follow your teammates when they go in(regardless of your mana, hp, or cooldowns), you have to be able to gank lanes even when they're overextended, etc, etc, etc. The second you don't do any of these things for whatever reason you are suddenly either:

A) A troll

B) Literally the worst player they've ever seen in their entire life

C) Some derogatory word based on race or gender

You can't reason with people. You can't say "hey, sorry I couldn't follow you but I had 20 hp", they'll keep flaming you regardless. So many people are just hostile and hateful for no reason at all.

NickColaTesla 2/3/2020, 6:01:31 PM7 votes

Bad games are fine. We all have them.

But if you're playing Garen into Vayne, die once to first blood, and keep running it down top in hopes of killing her and end up going 1-13, then I'm going to report you.

Zac x Me2/3/2020, 5:54:13 PM7 votes

having a bad game doesn't give you an excuse to never group, never help defend or take objectives and just afk farm while spamming surrender because you do not want to play a bad game

Quáx2/3/2020, 6:17:04 PM7 votes

"They're allowed to have bad games, just not in my games"

Glory972/3/2020, 5:25:57 PM6 votes

"when people report innocuous activity" You have way too much good faith in your average league of legends players. I know people who will report all 9 other people in the lobby when they loose a promo. People who report the enemy when for banning their favourite champion. And they send out afk reports when a teammate disconnects for 1 second or he pings his high ping.

I've played with so many players together, and I think the ammount of people that use the report system the way it's intended to be used, is a very small minority.

Jack Eron2/3/2020, 8:20:01 PM5 votes

Well the problem is that "bad game" is rare. 99% of those players who use the "bad game" words only use them as excuse. Literally daily. Funny when my toplaner who is already 0-3-0 and behind with 2levels pushing till the enemy turret, challenge him to 1v1 for the 4. time and after he dies he dare to say "bad game". No, in most cases we talk about COMMON stupidity.

When your enemy has a few kills he will lead with levels, which means all his stats will be better. When you challenge him at this point and you dont even ward, it's not a game. It's not unlucky moment, it's not because you are first timer. It's because you can't think just want to take kills because playing wisely is boring for many casual players.

Also after a few words they will use the "ItS ONlY NoRMal" excuse for being bad, like normals would made to feed and lose as hell.

I am Bardo Bard2/3/2020, 8:21:34 PM4 votes

Having "bad games" like my "Premades" going 4/19 or my recent Jax that has 0/5/0 and ragequits. These are not "bad games". In fact, the vast majority are obviously miss-match by a bad "matchmaking" system (if you want to call this garbage "matchmaking"). "Bad games" with "supports" with no vision are the first one to create those topics.

I know, White Knighting is a fine thing becaus you feel so right and all, but the "bad games" my so-called "team mates" have are ridiculous. No vision, no assist, when I snare someone as Morgana they do nothing, they do not react to pings or wards I PLACE ON A DIFFERENT LANE. These people are absolutely r%%%%%ed to put in your "team" to make you lose. So stop White Knighting. I am more tired of the bad players that always say "go play LCS" or shit like that when they feed. As if I have to play UEFA just because some idiots are screwing you over on the soccer field.

Dreamhare2/3/2020, 10:45:30 PM4 votes

TLDR: "I died 7 times to a Sett, insistently thinking that, like magic, I would start 1v1'ng him and win the game Solo, instead of safely farming and avoiding foolish confrontation. Now I'm crying at the boards with a huge wall of text."

Wrathful Chicken2/4/2020, 7:25:05 AM4 votes

You're allowed to have bad games. You just aren't allowed to be bad and not get called out for it.

I don't think flaming people who played bad is ever going to change. Nobody is going to pat me on the back if I do bad like they do in other sports like volleyball. That's because in many ways, this game that claims to be a team sport really isn't on a consistent basis.

The mere fact that Summoner's Rift is gridlocked in 3 lanes in the early game is already quite isolating. A bot laner has no control over what the hell goes on top lane. Early game, only the jungler has any kind of intervention on the lanes. Even then, the jungler at least wants to farm some camps in peace. It's the lack of an ability to solve the problem somewhere else that makes this inevitable. [zombie-brand-clap] When it finally comes time that everyone actually can act like a team, the events of early game only leads to spite for the mid game since it feels as if the job is so much harder than it should be due to reasons beyond control. It's annoying. This issue is quite common even in the bot lane, due to misaligned intent.

People might be exaggerating or not even exaggerating how bad someone else is doing, but the reaction itself is natural if you think about what it fundamentally is. The accusations are a declaration of an issue. The reason why the flaming gets worse is the simple fact that pointing out a problem is not the same thing as a solution. When people are aware of a problem and it is repetitively swept under the rug, not to be solved, you get angry. It's really that simple in logic and common sense.

This matter only gets worse the worse someone performs. Naturally, the jungler doesn't want their laners to do bad, because it makes it more difficult for them to gank a high performing enemy. They would rather gank their laners that perform well in order to have people that are at least capable of serving as a solution. So the simple fact that a laner is essentially abandoned due to a problem that spirals out of control makes it almost natural to be pissed. It may be the proper approach to winning the game, but it still serves as a source of anger. Especially if that fed opponent ends up crushing the leads of the rest of the bad player's team.

The only way to settle the anger caused by problems is to become the SOLUTION. After all, that is what the S in S+ stands for. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Eybdoog2/4/2020, 4:48:55 PM3 votes

Apologize for feeding. Mute all. And move on. Why shouldn’t your teammates be allowed to be upset when they lose a game because someone ints the bed?

Also in this point in case with Sett it is entirely Riot’s fault for releasing such an unbalanced champion. When ahead Sett is numbers overtuned to a point where he can play like a complete idiot and still have no chance of losing

GripaAviara2/4/2020, 12:57:11 AM3 votes

The problem is when you have a complete trash matchmaking, you are flooded by either people that have a bad game and a people that are way out of their league. On top of that add people that play inebriated and trolls and you have a whole powder keg for toxicity

Love Anastasia2/4/2020, 11:06:09 AM3 votes

Don't you understand that many of us get tilted by seeing how you are 0-5 and keep building damage? Didn't you think about, instead of rush a Black Cleaver and keep building damage, rush tabis and one defensive item?

OHminus2/7/2020, 11:45:45 PM2 votes

You're inting piece of shit no good ass is what's keeping me from 100% winrate! I swear I play all my games perfectly, if it weren't for you pieces of trash I wouldn't be stuck in iron 3 and be diamond like I deserve to be. Fuck you losing to a player of relatively equal skill/rank, why can't everyone just be perfect like me?

4thaccsthecharm2/3/2020, 11:54:04 PM2 votes

I strongly disagree with this post because the league community as a whole is utter toxic waste matchmaking system is a complete joke the autofill system is total garbage and then when you finally get into a game you get inting players you get raging you get afk you get everything toxic imaginable the game has gotten to a point where it is completely un enjoyable this game brings out the absolute worst in people

F1uttershy20752/4/2020, 2:02:54 AM2 votes

I wouldn't say that you can't have a bad game. The issue i see is the bickering that happens due to a bad game. Every one knows the community is Toxic we get it. So if you have a bad game ignore it and just try to learn and improve.

Where it dies is when some one having a bad game Starts to argue rage and then explodes flaming his flamers.

Also having a bad game is ok.. Having 5 bad games in a row.. when people can actualy see your after game content is another.

Lord Vegetto2/4/2020, 6:53:42 AM2 votes

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When I say this, I don’t mean that Riot will punish you. To the contrary, this is not Riots issue at all. It is 100% an issue of the player base and a constant misuse of language that has evolved into a subtle way to flame players for having bad games.

I’ll use my game last night. I went 1/7 on Olaf against Sett. I have played against Sett once before. Once. Yes, I know what he does but knowing what a champion does and having experience playing against them is not the same thing. I figured I had an advantage in the lane, and I most certainly did. I blew his flash level 1, but then I got ganked. Happens, I made a mistake. I overstayed. Then I began lagging, and I come back to lane and literally get trapped in my minion wave to the point where Sett starts attacking me and I can’t even retaliate. I die. I come back to lane, I kill him. From then on, I just keep getting ganked or misplay, either due to poor play or lag. After 1/3, I decide I’m not going to die anymore and give my team a chance to carry me. Then I proceed to get camped and dove, and the eventually finishes with me being 1/7.

My whole team is flaming me. I don’t really care about stuff like “what’s this guys elo??? Boosted??? Easy!!!” I do, however, have a problem with players questioning my integrity as a player and claiming I’m “inting,” “soft inting,” “or trolling.” By the way, the enemy set accused me of “trolling” and “soft inting,” meanwhile this guys regularly has games where he has 15+ deaths - which is the line where you can legitimately begin questioning whether someone is intentionally feeding at that point. That’s neither here nor there, but it’s amusing at the least.

Here’s the problem with the aforementioned language above. Players have gotten to the point where they use the report system and the parameters of the report system to describe what is usually nothing more than bad play as “intentionally feeding,” “griefing (whatever the hell that actually means),” etc. In reality, players are just having bad games. Yes, i am aware that there are people that will go around the rules and do things to feed but seem legit. But that does not happen nearly as much as you think it does. What’s more likely is you feel mad about someone losing a lane to the point where you can’t win, so the community being the vindictive pieces of shit that they are, they propose to report someone because it makes them feel better about the loss. It relieves them of any personal responsibility in the loss, so they can rationalize the loss by blaming a “soft inting player,” etc. In reality, it is the opposite: it’s a way to actually flame a player having a bad game without being punished by the ban system for actual griefing and flaming. The irony is not lost on me here. What’s worse is that this is what devalues the report system more, because it’s hard to get a real account of what happens when people report innocuous activity (a player having a bad game) so they can feel better about themselves and remove any personal responsibility of the loss.

In short, y’all need to chill the fuck out. People have bad games. It happens. Y’all make this game unfun, and this is why people hate this community so much. I am a busy dude. I cherish the free time I get for myself, and I usually use that free personal time to ply video games. The last thing I want to do is play a game, not do so well (which is frustrating enough in its own right) and then be flamed by a bunch of socially awkward hormonal teenagers that wear pants that are so tight, if they farted their shoes would explode. Okay, that line was to make me feel better (irony). Anyway, chill out and stop making peoples playing experience miserable.

I want to tell you something you lost against sett , then why you even go in trades minions block you c on. Becouse trash people like you the game is not fun to play. Just look my acc i onetrick garen and i lost 2 games top against 1 better player gnar other 150 games i won and still i have 58% winrate with garen. Do you know what they write you play noob champ lol 600 000 exp you cant carry. I can carry 1 bad player and 1 who wanna lisen but i cant 2 inters and afks. So put your ego down becousw you int 1 7 and try hard to win. And every time when im the worst in game riot take me 100 lp but when im best in my team thats over 30% games when i lost or win give me my lp

Nyarlathοtep2/4/2020, 10:59:17 AM2 votes

I mean can you even blame the community? The snowball effect is so strong that 1 kill usually determinates how a matchup would develop. Aatrox vs morde for instance, morde gets a kill? Well tough lack aatrox you cant fight him. Aatrox gets a kill? Well morde, you cant fight him.

Other times someone like kata or yi get fed where suddenly they can kill someone so fast that their counterplay fades away. Turrets arent durable enough to endure dmg in order for you to play safe and catch up. The minion buffs mean that you cant contest for the game ending objectives dragon soul/elder and baron.

All these (and much more) things affect everyone that play lol. Some are able to shrug them off, others cant and they explode. By the end of the day, only riot can address the stuff that make the game more shitty to say the least.

Padoµch2/4/2020, 3:39:25 PM2 votes

I mean, I understand, I have even worse games, where I get camped and nobody helps me. I kinda understand why people are more and more toxic. IMO its because we cannot carry when one of our teammates die so much, mainly against new champs. Sett is really OP. It would be the same against lets say Aphelios. I still dont know all his stuff, and he can kill you from like half the map somehow. If it would be something like lets say Renekton, Reksai, Fiora, we already know what to do against those champs.

Laura ß2/7/2020, 4:14:57 AM2 votes

If you don't want to be flamed for playing bad then why even go into ranked, ranked is for absolute tryharding why do you even expect for players to not get mad when you are playing like shit especially when using a champion you don't even have 10 games of practice.

You are saying you want to go into a ranked game and chill and if you feed oh well its just a game, then YOU are the problem

ifakmayonaizjar2/7/2020, 11:30:33 AM1 votes

tbh its probably ur fault and ur being dumb by shifting the blame on ''got ganked and lag'' if u got ganked that much learn from it and stay under tower until u see jg bot and uk u can fuk sett up, u made mistakes and instead of learning from it u shift blame on lag.

HotAsianMochi2/5/2020, 5:42:33 PM1 votes

I cannot stress enough as to how bad most of the player base is whenever you play a game, hence why I never solo queue anymore. You do one wrong thing and you get flamed for it like you aren't human that makes mistakes. It's so hard to abandon this game where your friends still play it and how you've invested in the game for years.