Im officially done, 14 day ban for playing with an inting ezreal. Twitch clip included.

KimbleeNA·9/3/2019, 10:12:23 AM·2 votes·1,664 views

Was just 14 day banned in a game where we had an immediate inting ezreal. Like hard run it down lane inting ezreal. While asking for reports and talking with my team, the zed on the other team became toxic and claimed he wouldnt report him because we killed him. He went on to say we are all just pissy and bad.

This game continued with him just inting and trolling as seen in the clip. Here is the chat logs of what I said in this game. It is this one single game that got me the 14 day ban according to riots report. This was the enemy team, or the inting ezreal reporting me as the others were my premade except for rammus who quit the game due to the inting ezreal.

Game 1 In-Game KimbleeNA: nvm KimbleeNA: please report ( he is 0-4 now) KimbleeNA: goodbye promos KimbleeNA: just push mid KimbleeNA: open KimbleeNA: please? (team agreed to the above as he kept running it down bot lane and mid) KimbleeNA: same, clipped him on twitch will send a ticket in to get him banned KimbleeNA: he will probably report you (this was telling my team to not go afk and keep playing) KimbleeNA: night KimbleeNA: i mean, im gonna afk also, i had 1 more game before bed...the game was over before it started so why stay (didnt afk nor was it a threat) KimbleeNA: rather get an extra 20-30 mins of sleep KimbleeNA: night boss KimbleeNA: it only takes one, also reporting that as well thanks for the clip (this is when zed became toxic) KimbleeNA: thanks for your permission KimbleeNA: you will not report intentional feeding because you die...nothing wrong with that? lol (reiterating what zed said) KimbleeNA: that is the definition of toxic KimbleeNA: i love the people that get all big and bad when they get a free win lol KimbleeNA: for what? KimbleeNA: being trolled by ezreal?> KimbleeNA: anyone reporting ezreal, reporting zed. Enjoy the win you wouldnt normally have zed and lets all move on KimbleeNA: anyway* KimbleeNA: panties in a twist, wont report if i die, i mean im offended by it (reiterating what zed had said about us) KimbleeNA: hm we will see KimbleeNA: swearing now, man so toxic Post-Game KimbleeNA: Supported the intentional feeder and claimed to refuse to support because he died, also swore multiple times and claimed that we are pissy and have our "panties in a bunch" (was the text in the report) KimbleeNA: enjoy that report KimbleeNA: seems like it in chat KimbleeNA: good luck proving otherwise (claims he wont get banned for supporting an intentional feeder) KimbleeNA: enjoy that banm

Maybe im just confused as to what the world considers offensive now. Maybe I just dont understand league anymore and its better to be an inting player than someone vocal about reporting him. Anyway guys, I really just can't do it anymore, everything is way more toxic than this but none of them are punished (friend added the ezreal to get proof, he is in another game as we speak, through spectate he is inting again.) Hope you all find a way to enjoy this game, I think chat should just be removed baseline at this point.

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Ephixus9/3/2019, 12:10:40 PM3 votes

Told 1000 times this automatic system is garbage and I will keep to repeat this until community's braindead heads will properly function.

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KFCeytron9/3/2019, 2:23:21 PM2 votes

So, it has come to this: someone displayed misbehavior in a LoL match in flagrant disregard for the game's rules, ToS, EULA, and Summoner's Code. That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. If this misbehavior happened in chat (including emotes or ping) and they don't respond positively to a single, courteous, constructive request to focus on the game, your best option is to mute that player. Submit a report after the match. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by asking them to keep it down and then notifying library staff and moving to another area.

Do not respond with misbehavior of your own! If you do that, your teammates may mute and report you, and those reports would be valid. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by getting into a shouting match with them. Just because someone else started it doesn't justify you in continuing it. I'm sure you're familiar with the "s/he started it" trope, where two children get into an argument or fight and then try to claim innocence of any wrongdoing by claiming that they didn't instigate it. As any parent, teacher, or other supervisor of children will tell you, that excuse doesn't fly. When Dad is trying to drive you to Disneyland and your annoying brother starts making faces at you as he's previously been told not to, you should calmly ask him to stop, and then, if that doesn't work, calmly notify your parents of the problem. Making faces at him or shouting at him has never been a good way to get him to stop, and it makes you just as guilty of that as he.

Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

If you misbehave but a teammate or opponent does or says something even worse, you should definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest.

Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting quite as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library.

In a perfect and just world, everyone who deserved a punishment would get one. In reality, it is possible for some punishable behavior to go unpunished. First, punishments in LoL can only occur after a valid report. Second, punishments take into account the consistency and severity of the punished player's misbehavior: if two players in a match break the same rule in the same way, one who consistently misbehaves in this way might get a punishment while the other who almost never does so gets away without a punishment (this time). At the end of the day, though, all this does is explain how differences in player behavior over many games can produce different results for equivalent behavior within a single game. It doesn't excuse poor behavior. One person having a rare bad day doesn't give a consistently toxic player the right to join in. The only behavior that matters in your punishment is your own... and a good thing, too: how would you feel if you behaved yourself but got punished anyway just because all your teammates were spectacularly friendly, communicative, and positive?

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

We can not discuss other players’ actions with you but you can always report them at end of game and mute them when in game. There is no excuse for raging back or responding to people trying to get you to tilt. You are the only one responsible for your actions and your words which is what we are trying to address with these bans.

You weren't punished for misbehaving in one game. You were punished for misbehaving in one more game, in a consistent pattern of negative behavior that breaks the game's rules. Additionally, the reform card doesn't always show all the logs that led to your punishment: it randomly selects up to several logs. You might see three logs, but you also might see as few as one, even for players whose punishment stems not from a small number of egregious infractions but rather from dozens of instances of mild toxicity. The purpose of the reform card is to tell you how to reform, so it shows you an example of the behavior that prompted your punishment and explains that such behavior is inappropriate and should be avoided if you want to maintain an account in good standing.

Usually, one transgression by itself wouldn't be enough to bring such a punishment to an otherwise clean account, but the IFS works on an escalating punishment system. Breaking a minor rule, like engaging the team in useless arguments, has a minor punishment: a chat restriction. Breaking that same rule over and over again, however, doesn't prompt an endless series of chat restrictions. The severity of the punishment ramps up over time, because the goal is to eliminate the punished player's willingness to break the game's rules. If two chat restrictions don't stop the useless arguments, the system will increase the punishment to a 14-day suspension and deliver a very clear message that the continued rule-breaking is becoming a serious issue and any further instances will result in a permaban. Again, the point is to put a stop to this misbehavior. If a player is more interested in repeatedly breaking the rules than in maintaining access to their account, they'll lose access to their account.

Of course, it's possible to break major rules, like cheating, threatening people, or using chat for hate speech, and skip punishment tiers so that a clean account ends up with a 14-day suspension or even a permaban.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:

  • First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction
  • Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction
  • Third Offense: Two Week Suspension
  • Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game.

Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players.

Pandemic Punch9/3/2019, 12:17:03 PM1 votes

The automated system triggers when you say "report" too much no matter what the context is. System is trash. I got a 14 day ban as a first time punishment ever for typing 1 word on this account. On an alt account, I am purposefully toxic every game and that account hasn't had a single punishment because I haven't said any of the trigger words... Even though that account deserves to be perma banned. System doesn't work. It only weaponizes people who are aware of the system as I have gotten several people banned who didn't truly deserve it.

No matter how many of these cases there are, Riot doesn't care about context or the people who don't deserve it. They only care about defending a trash system.

Spotty9/3/2019, 2:15:30 PM1 votes

you got banned for talking, its impossible to be banned for inting if you dont talk