Why is it in new players/bad players head that surrendering is bad?

MTG Timmy ·2/11/2018, 1:41:20 AM·2 votes·316 views

Its pretty easy to see if a games over based on how people play/champions ect. Sometimes no the bad players cannot see this but if a game is CLEARLY over you arent going to win it. not surrendering over "pride" in a video game you are really bad at doesn't actually matter at all. All you are doing is being dumb wasting your own time.

8 Comments

Unker1392/11/2018, 1:52:19 AM3 votes

Its not about pride. For a new or bad player, its and extra 5 minutes of practice landing skill shots or timing combos that you don't get waiting for the next game to lead.

Its a chance to practice playing from behind - a skill a bad player desperately needs until they improve.

redniwediS2/11/2018, 1:44:37 AM3 votes

Some people focus only on the game at hand, while others focus on the total games they will play that day.

If you're focusing only on the game you are playing all that really matters is the win. Surrendering is an instant loss, so a never surrender attitude is understandable.

If you're focused on the total amount of games you're playing you focus more on self improvement, or getting as many wins in as possible and cutting your losses early. Surrendering is an easy way to move on to a game that is likely to be more valuable to you.

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with being new or bad, but when I look at the issue this is the divide I see.

AnArousedCactus2/11/2018, 3:09:54 AM1 votes

I think its an American thing.

"Surrender? When did you become French?"

American culture is all supposed to be about dedication and fortitude. I'm sure more recent generations have strayed from this ideology a bit but most have at least heard it and had the mindset thrust upon them at some point in school, at home or in the workplace.

Poisøn2/11/2018, 3:29:24 AM1 votes

There's a lot to it honestly, but their mental abilities are so lacking that the idea of starting a new game is too much work for them and they'd rather just ride out the game they're in, plus they don't want to see a loss until they've done everything they can.

Smart players who climb faster and achieve higher elo understand it's a numbers game and will get out of a bad game as fast as possible after knowing they've done what they can to give it an honest effort but that 10/0 vayne is not gonna let up

rtbf2216514122/11/2018, 3:34:10 AM1 votes

When riot says never surrender, it affects the new players. There are times to surrender. Having mostly early champs on your team and being in late game tells you quite clearly to surrender. Not according to Rito.

TheRiddum2/11/2018, 3:39:53 AM1 votes

Because it used to be you could come back from being behind. In this snowball shitfest Meta it’s a lot trickier now.

Colonel J2/11/2018, 3:42:42 AM1 votes

Because in 1 of 10 of their unwinnable games they made a comeback thereby wasting hours of game time for 1 win when their time would be better spent, assuming they are a good player with more wins than losses, getting into a new game.

Nyloaf2/11/2018, 1:51:45 AM1 votes

Honestly I feel like it's the "NEVER SURRENDER!!!!1111!!!!1" mindset everybody just starts out with usually. It's strange how it affects so many newer players so frequently though

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