Lets talk about Riots social engineering

Dat Phick·3/12/2019, 5:53:42 PM·1 votes·1,424 views

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This is objectively a silly dispute and doesn't deserve ban no matter how u look at it. However there is a bigger issue at hand which brings to the real discussion

If you can can get banned for this 1 game when you haven't logged on in a year. You can get banned for anything and it's gone too far imo. riots bans everyone who says anything so they can drive some kind of agenda. No terms of service we're broken yet they deliver bans to just about anyone who's remotely critical. Even if you just respond with banter "which they advertise in their own tips". Here's some objective evidence. On their own website it says "We won't lift any bans, even if we're in the wrong" they put it on display for everyone to see. This means riot never makes mistakes and all bans are just? That's just a story they like to tell to rid themselves of blame. This is social engineering for the purpose of money. they get to act as if their omnipotent while removing anyone who they simply don't like. While advertising (which is profitable) that anyone can play under the terms of service and spend money on skins which they wont be able to be refunded EVEN IF riot decides their "toxic" which can literally mean whatever they want and the people simply aren't breaking the guidelines. I have friends who got banned for saying "O yea?" over and over to a group of 4 premade bullies.

these are the terms of service regards to suspension and termination

2.1.1. You. You may terminate or suspend your account at any time by contacting us at [email protected]. ( We'll reply with a poorly made bot saying it's your fault no matter what)

2.1.2. Us.We may terminate or suspend your account if we determine, in our sole discretion, that:

(a) you have violated any part of this Agreement;

(b) we have stopped offering the Riot Services in your region; or (basically if they remove your server they won't offer a refund, this shows the real low live scums that work for riot)

(c) doing so would be in the best interests of our community, the Riot Services, or the rights of a third party. <------------ THIS IS KEY TERM OF SERVICE. IT SAYS "WE CAN BAN ANYONE FOR ANY REASON AND SAY IT'S BREAKING THE GUIDELINES" (this is absolutely disgusting and it's only allowed written down because nobody bothered to read it. BY AGREEING TO THIS TERM OF SERVICE RIOT CAN BAN YOU BECAUSE... anything

We may make such determinations, among other ways, by using automated systems and machine learning tools. <----- (after we decided on literally anything to ban you for due to everything written above, we can also do it any shape or form)

2.1.3. The Tribunal®. The Tribunal® system allows our community of users to police the compliance of other users with the “Summoner’s Code,” which outlines the principles of ideal game play behavior, as well as with our other policies. Community members, including you, may submit descriptions of activity and actions of certain users within the Game, and collectively determine if that particular user was in compliance with our policies. If The Tribunal determines, in its sole discretion, that you have violated one of our policies, we may suspend or terminate your account on behalf of the community. (this is bullshit its another automated bot we wrote this for jokes and forgot to take it out because we're lazy no community was involved in this COMPANY decision)

2.2. What happens if my account is terminated? (No LoL for you.) If your account is terminated, you’ll no longer have access to it, including any of the associated data or content (e.g., champions, skins, Riot Points, etc.). You’ll not be entitled to any refunds and we’ll have no liability to you. We also reserve the right to terminate any other accounts you may have created, as well as your access to any other Riot Services (also without any refunds or liability to you). <---------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE THEY CAN TAKE UR MONEY REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT and they make it their LEGAL BIRTHRIGHT to your money. Basically Even if they openly admit it was their fault legally your moneys theirs. These internet developers have something else coming for them if the community pulls a law suit. Any basic law university student could tell you this is scam or even someone who's made a bad purchase on ebay really.

You understand and agree that using the Riot Services comes with the risk "of your name being thrown into a roulette ban machine" that your account may be terminated or suspended and that, whenever you use the Riot Services, you’ll bear this risk in mind and always conduct yourself appropriately.<---------- (by click agree to this term of service not only can we ban u for literally anything BUT it your fault because you agree right here right now that in the future riot wont make a mistake THE REASON THEY NEED to add this in isn't for your benefit it's for theirs. It means by click accept you understand we own your account and all purchases in it AND you cant play without agreeing which is important to note)

The point is, if your company has it's head so far up it's own rear that you have bots responding to support tickets?? Riot is trying to inflame players by using bots saying "almighty riot doesn't make mistakes" and delivering insta-bans to players who haven't touched the game for a year over chat logs like this and haven't remotely come even close to breaking TOS (side note: i guess it does break TOS if you read how it's really written, what it says is. Riot decides what speech is and isn't allowed so if they decide tomorrow saying "HELLO" is toxic anyone who's used the word hello past present or future can be banned) . Maybe the community should step up and call the developers out for using their money against its own people to me it just looks like they want to feed the rage more than help it with fake smiles and shitty bots because they know it makes them money & players. I'm hoping people see it for how it really is and give riot a hard time for all the players that have to deal with these type of injustice. To not mention that they ban people from forums that voice their opinion in literally GENERAL DISCUSSION they get REAL PEOPLE which THEY DON'T USE TO HELP YOU to come and close the thread and be like we don't want this discussion going any further. This feels like a regime made by none other than riot themselves. So that leave's the question.

Should riot be held responsible maybe even legally for writing down one things setting up a donation box and acting out another? Leave your thoughts below regardless of what my particular context is, I'm sure there's many stories like mine.

41 Comments

Busty Demoness3/12/2019, 6:06:39 PM9 votes

I see no problem with Riot's ban based on your chat logs.

Also, the only reason ONE game would get you banned is if you had come off of a 14-day suspension and didn't play the games required to show reform. Based on what you said, you came off the 14-day suspension but then took a year long break. The system saw no reform whatsoever and rightfully banned you for that very instigating log.

DrCyanide3/12/2019, 6:09:12 PM8 votes

If you can can get banned for this 1 game when you haven't logged on in a year. You can get banned for anything and it's gone too far imo.

Not logging in doesn't make Riot assume you're better behaved, they have to see games where you behaved better.

Schoenberg3/12/2019, 6:37:54 PM2 votes

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Saezio3/12/2019, 6:11:18 PM1 votes

You should play on a server that is less strict. Or speak a different language. NA seems to be the server with the most reporters.

Saezio3/12/2019, 6:09:27 PM1 votes

Are the ToS strict? Yes Will you be in trouble if you don't break them? No Should there be permanent account bans for toxicity(outside of racism,hate speech)? No (imo perma chat bans should be the ultimate penalty for chat offences)

Amamahdeth3/12/2019, 7:30:55 PM1 votes

Asking for reports is a bannable offense. This is a troll thread.

Sir Saltarin3/12/2019, 8:48:34 PM1 votes

I wont lie, I started to read and then I gave up.

Enjoy the ban, for what I've seen is deserved enough.

Vacus3/12/2019, 9:40:39 PM1 votes

It's amazing how every single time the thread goes:

OP: I didn't deserve this ban! Also OP: *immediately proves that they deserved it*