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Can I know what's exactly weak about Tanks ?

Noor Sakata·11/6/2018, 2:37:20 PM·5 votes·2,353 views

Alright so , I've been seeing a lot of posts about tanks being unplayable the whole season but I don't get it , what's the problem exactly ?

Alistar S+ Tier the whole season

Chogath I'm not sure if he is a tank or not , but he is strong.

Gragas ? This champion is pretty popular , I see him a lot in pro play and high elo thought , He does damage while being Tank and he has a strong Ultimate

Leona She has been in a good spot the whole season , and she is Tier 1 right now with high win rate and pick rate according to op.gg

Malphite ? He's fine , not too weak , nor too strong , and I see him a lot from time to play , and he is a fun champion and his Ultimate is pretty strong and does decent damage for a Tank

Maokai We might argue here , he isn't popular this season for some reason , however , every time I see him , he is pretty good , Tanky af and does damage , and one of my favorite champions , tho every time I play him , I usually buy item 3025 and do some good damage while being Tanky

Nautilus well this champion , to be honest , I don't know much about him, but maybe the problem he doesn't have damage as much as the other tanks ? he uses his combo , then go on cooldowns and does nothing later till he gets his cool downs again for some reason every time I see him , he is either useless when behind , or annoying to deal with when ahead " really annoying "

Ornn Sadly he got nerfed because of pro play but , I still see him a lot doing fine in high elo from time to time , in other words , his problem is the Tanks are useless one , it's the nerfs he got

Sejuani The same thing for Ornn , she got gutted because of pro play , the problem is the nerfs she got

Amumu Well Amumu had always been like that , not only in season 8 . his kit is out dated ,he isn't that good in early because most of junglers are better , so people would rather playing him AP because of his kit , but he is still pretty good in team fights with his Ultimate , in other words , he has kit problems

Poppy , I used to think she is a Juggernaut because of her damage , but people in boards told me she is a tank , and she is pretty strong right now since assassins and mobility are a thing right now , and her e and w are nightmares for most of assassins , one of my favorite champions in the game <3

Rammus he is good , he isn't that popular but he is really a good champion.

Sion No need to talk about it , one of the most popular champions the whole season even with the nerfs he got , and you know that Int Sion thing

Zac ok tbh , about this guy , I hate him , I don't know what's exactly weak about him , to be frank I don't play him but , I seriously hate playing against this guy , I know he has low pick rate and win rate , and his latest changes made him weak , but Idk . he still works prefectly in a lot of team comps

Wardens

Who are tanks but got utility or idk

Braum Strong the whole season

Taric He's fine

TahmKench Shen , 2 words , Pro and play , both of them had to be gutted because of 1 ability , Tahm's devour and Shen's Ult , BUT , they were pretty strong before the nerfs

and Nunu I have no idea what's wrong with this champion , after the rework , everything , idk , not even sure if he's a tank or not so no comment here .

But as you can see , most of Tanks are in a good spot , but some of them were gutted because of pro play , not because they are tanks And even the ones that were over nerfed are still a dream for any adc player

I know That stupid keystone is a problem , but who uses it ? Yasuo Usually perma banned Irelia ? if your teammates doesn't ban her , just ban her yourself and save yourself MasterYi ? yes he is a problem when you are a tank , but you can still abuse his early and lock him down in fights , you are a tank and cc is your main mission , he can still get bursted since most of Tanks cc is easy to apply Don't forget that most of AP champions still suffer from Tanks

ok so what inspired me is , usually I main mages , I hate dealing with Tanks more than anyone else , not saying they are OP , no , it's just a personal hate Played a Flex match with my friends yesterday , I was Akali , Yes I know we had a shitty comp but still , our Solo Duo ranks are way higher than enemies , 2 of my friends who are Diamond but smurfing , one of them is the adc , which is Kaisa completely lost their Brains of how bad the enemy Jinx , she doesn't even kite , just standing behind her Tanks and right clicking us ,I was Akali and felt useless against 2 tanks and a Garen , and those 2 tanks , Zac and Naut which are supposed to be weak and Kaisa Lulu are supposed to be night mare for tanks ? Not to forget how Popular assassins are right now , Tanks are a good option for both ad and ap assassins, but people might say Armor is too weak but Zed can't burst a Tank without using his Ultimate and hit like 3 shurinkens and take only less than half of that Tanks Hp which no Zed players wants to do that anyway

At the end , Tanks aren't really that weak , it's just everyone wants to be that damage dealer , everyone wants to be the carry , they don't want to be team reliant , what if their adc was bad enough not to right click ? everyone wants to hear , Triple Kill and Quadra kill for them and get honors They can't really do that as Tanks because that's the design of Tanks , like supports Unless the tank is completely busted like Alistar Sion , they won't play Tanks , that's for most of players from what I've learned that's it , have a nice day ^^

Edit : forgot to mention the Marksmen part They are the main class that counters Tanks , and they don't do much damage in early , not to forget adc got probelms against assassins and as long as Tanks can lock down some ad carries " or not need to " Assassins can just easily with them

Not to forget , the most popular Marskmen right now Ezreal Bad against Tanks

Lucian Not the best option against Tanks , he is a burst marskmen and his mission is to dash in and to focus carries or he will lose the fight if he focuses Tanks , which means Tanks are a good option against him

Jhin like Lucian , not the best option against Tanks

Kaisa Well , just hope she is banned or your team picks her

Graves Thanks god the - 3 ad nerf " be it a placebo nerf or not " highly affected his pick rate

20 Comments

Warlord Rhinark11/6/2018, 2:41:34 PM3 votes

From what I can gather, it's not so much Tanks being weak, but True Damage and Penetration being strong.

Nut on my Butt11/6/2018, 4:31:21 PM3 votes

Mostly just dummies who think they should be able to tank multiple people for extended periods like an mmo or something. A lot of the complaints in general this season have just been vocal minority, crying on the forums because the comet does 180 damage instead of 170

Moody P11/6/2018, 2:48:31 PM2 votes

Nothing.

TehBromato11/6/2018, 2:49:00 PM2 votes

Small brain players

DeracadaVenom11/6/2018, 9:11:49 PM2 votes

I'm a sejuani main and her being gutted just crushes me :( I wasn't to caught up about her rework but all those nerfs really hurt me [sg-soraka]

oOBestEveNAOo11/6/2018, 7:32:34 PM2 votes

Absolutely anything you heard or read about tanks being unplayable is something you heard from a complete idiot with no actual knowledge. Not only have tanks been viable in every role outside of bot lane carry (in which we had a brief bruiser bot lane window of viability that further enhanced the viability of tanky champions), they have been superior picks at every point of this entire season. People, in general, are just greedy idiots. Particularly when it comes to this game. They have the attitude that "I'm going to carry or my team is gonna lose because fuck playing a team game for the team" and it is this attitude that leads to the types of opinions you have heard from less than intelligent folks.

Salvor Hardın11/6/2018, 2:45:40 PM2 votes

Gragas is not a Tank anymore u.u

item 1402 item 3157 item 3020 item 3165 They weakened him very much and in order to "balance" him, they increased their AP radios.

Kalienor11/6/2018, 4:38:00 PM1 votes

It's forgetting the Jax/Darius/Renekton/Camille wave that "conquered" tanky toplane earlier in the season. Some picks have become insanely strong against tanks in solo lane thanks to the rune, leading to a fighter meta top. We could add Fiora/Riven/Aatrox/Kled/Olaf to the list, so really, Conqueror users ain't that uncommon, they're just waiting for tanks to stick their neck out :p . Currently, these champions are not so popular but tanks can't freely come back yet because if they do, they still have an existing counter to deal with.

That doesn't mean tanks are bad (like, unplayable), but for a long time toplane tanks didn't have many counters until late game when they were to meet marksmen, so they're past their golden age.

You're quoting a fair amount of tanky supports but they're not aimed by the saying. On the contrary, botlane got rid of a good amount of poke champions, so tank supp really is a thing atm. Actually, it even reinforced the scarcity of toplane tanks since botlane tanks are currently in a much better shape due to the delay imposed to tank shredding ability of marksmen.

Your mage POV reminds me of when I was training the previous Leblanc and it was very difficult until I found out what was wrong with my playstyle: I've been trying to deal with tanks when all I had to do was never wasting a spell on them until they were the last standing man. And it worked. Dealing with tanks isn't really your job, you shouldn't bother so much about not being able to threat them.

Worst Brad Japan11/6/2018, 5:34:05 PM1 votes

Pros: -High damage -High tankiness -Provides protection from bullets

Cons: -Costs too much to buy and produce -Costs too much to maintain -Slow compared to regular vehicules -Cannot rotate as easily as other vehicule -Big and easy target to hit -Cannot be used in confined space

AggressiveCheeto11/6/2018, 6:58:39 PM1 votes

i think tanks in top lane is a rather good thing but i dont think that a tank support is a bad thing because they cant get tanky enough fast enough to outplay pen and if you have to build mr then you are doomed if you are a support tank because you wont have enough hp for it to be worth it

DarukongSr11/6/2018, 3:34:35 PM1 votes

Besides the fact that every tank Stat is easily countered and turned against them? The only good thing about tanks is cc/peel and the ability to survive about 1-2 secs longer under fire. Tanks are countered by excessive armor pen and true damage dps, by void staff, %hp damage etc. I was a 5k ho sion (I know, nothing to boast about, but still) with tabi and one or two other armor items getting eaten alive by yi in 2.5 secs under my two Nexus towers trying to defend. Vayne does the same exact thing as yi as far as tanks are concerned.

Salron11/6/2018, 3:56:23 PM1 votes

Aside from the joke that sej has become, nothing SoloQ teams just don't use tanks to their full potential

Ðeath XIII11/6/2018, 7:34:43 PM1 votes

Imagine you buy items to survive longer. Technically you're surviving 300% longer than full DPS.

But when DPS dies in 1 second to other DPS and you're dying in 3... and you can't kill them. Its frustrating.