I need explanation for current placement system. [Placed in bronze iv and playing vs gold 1-p4]

PareidolÏa·1/11/2020, 2:45:06 PM·40 votes·14,873 views

So take a look at this.

Im okay to play against gold 1-2 players since I peaked plat 2 last season. This is a fresh account. But what bothers me, is this placement system. I am 3wins 1 loses now, so think about this, I played total of 4 games, every game vs gold players. Now imagine if I lose the next 6 games, and since you don't get demoted when you are in placements I will stay at Iron 1. So now my question is, imagine if I lose next 6 games playing vs gold players and getting placed in Iron. Like what? If Im playing against gold 1 players then give me gold elo don't place me in iron lol.

Playing vs skilled players to get placed into shit rank isn't very well designed placement system, isnt it?

Update: Promoted to bronze IV, playing against platinum IV, xD joke system

35 Comments

Joe 2nd1/11/2020, 2:48:09 PM13 votes

Because everyone starts lower then they been last season.

I was D4 and got placed in g2 and I am playing with D players.

That’s just how new season is always

Kpuc1/11/2020, 2:54:32 PM11 votes

small indie company

Sałem1/11/2020, 6:51:03 PM5 votes

You can tell that every rioter and at support team and everything they will tell you is the same message that goes something like this " we see that you are confused so here is some information on the ranked system ... " and they will link you this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

The sad part about that is what I already tried to explain to some of the support team is that it makes no seans since the game is not solo and its team game ... if you have rank and MMR separated it makes a huge mess reason for that is that you theoretically can have silver player playing with diamond players if he has huge wining % and clean (almost perfect kda ) and what happens is if he loses and keeps the same elo he probably will end in plat 1 max what is even sadder if you look at the ranked pyramid that actually not pyramids it's more like ellipse if you look at the graph in charts and make shape out of it .

Here is the % of players in ranks -->https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution

This is caused because of the % in-game makes huge impact of it the algorithm thinks if you have let's say 80% wr and rest of your team has less than 40 %wr and enemy has about 50% wr (all of them ) ... it thinks is fair since you have that % of wr and thinks you can carry them into victory and makes the game "coin flip ( 50 50 for both teams with the win % ) and avoids the ranks in most situations

Thre is more but I'm lazy to type it and I know that the system always had "it test your true rank in first 10 games after reset and new account " - dont even type that, I already know it and I showed little bit why it's not healthy and not fair ---> I know so many streamers that do " unranked to challenger " and get plat rank but play with master and grandmaster players ... if they deserve that rank than give them or let everyone suffer and play against the rank they are at currently ----> even faker refuses to play on his main account because they removed the old elo rating to rank system (you will never see him play on his main https://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=SKT+T1+Faker ) when one of the best players says its garbage ...

PreShot1/11/2020, 9:19:56 PM5 votes

I been complaining about this since last season. My wife was bronze 1 last season and yet any rank game she played she would be the ONLY bronze player in the game going against GOLD players. Now ask me does my wife play rank? NO she doesn't even touch it because she gets flamed for playing bad against GOLD players when SHE IS #&$^#& BRONZE

Jesus is Savior1/11/2020, 5:05:02 PM5 votes

Same as last season. Even after your placements are over, on a fresh account you will be getting -5 LP on a loss and +30 on a win. You need to grind out 50-100 games for your rank to catch up to your MMR.

Riot gives you a rank that is lower than your MMR to force you to grind out more games. They want you to have to play more so you will spend more money.

Soul Patrol1/11/2020, 8:20:04 PM1 votes

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So take a look at this.

https://imgur.com/SbUcgNi.png

Im okay to play against gold 1-2 players since I peaked plat 2 last season. This is a fresh account. But what bothers me, is this placement system. I am 3wins 1 loses now, so think about this, I played total of 4 games, every game vs gold players. Now imagine if I lose the next 6 games, and since you don't get demoted when you are in placements I will stay at Iron 1. So now my question is, imagine if I lose next 6 games playing vs gold players and getting placed in Iron. Like what? If Im playing against gold 1 players then give me gold elo don't place me in iron lol.

Playing vs skilled players to get placed into shit rank isn't very well designed placement system, isnt it?

Update: Promoted to bronze IV, playing against platinum IV, xD joke system

Same but I climbed bronze 4 to silver 4 in one day so it shouldn't be an issue really

HolidayUniverse1/11/2020, 7:52:51 PM1 votes

Actually after ur 10 promo games if u stay iron for example as u said , u will get +35 lp and lose 5 or 6 maybe.Ur going to skip every division till ur MMR's. Last season i got my previous rank with around 30 Wins with 2 skipped divs. And yea thats how it works.

8 Lamar Jackson1/11/2020, 9:24:39 PM1 votes

because it is about reminding you of the hell you were once in. Every season is a refresher of such hell before u climb your way out the pits.

Kabot1/12/2020, 5:15:15 AM1 votes

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RadeticDraws1/12/2020, 1:08:30 PM1 votes

Yeah I got placed in silver in a solo/duo game i lost hard but the flex game i won i got placed into iron not to mention that i was gold the last season

Cush Kologne1/12/2020, 11:25:44 PM1 votes

Cause it’s riot fucking games...

Shleelpboy1/12/2020, 11:52:16 PM1 votes

Cause league doesn't know how to fix things. You nailed it to the bone, but would they care for your opinion probably not.