Why hasn't the surrender system been corrected?

Akali Is Dead·Feb 14, 2019·3 votes·1,064 views

(Edit: I feel like I should make it more clear that the other two people, aside from the duo, wanted to the game to end as well and we repeatedly tried to ff. See comments below, this thread is less to talk about that specific game, though it is the reason I made this thread, and more to explore the possibility of implementing a system where this is more difficult to pull off. Something similar to a 3 strike system, where if 3 of 5 people vote for an ff at least 2 or 3 times the game should be forfeited. As 3 of 5 is still majority.)

I was just trapped in a 45 minute game by a duo who both fed 1/13 and 3/12, but they refused to ff. "Game's gotta be longer." in chat when I said something about it. This usually doesn't bother me, it's happened before. But out of fear of being reported and punished with riot's new happy trigger finger (Can proudly say I've never had an account banned though), I can't flame or afk the game. Tried to open, but was spam pinged for a good 5 minutes and decided to just play it out. 4 votes were called from 20-45, each vote coming out as 3 votes to ff and 2 to not.

Why hasn't a system been setup where if multiple ff votes come out as 3/2 an ff is called? Unless I've forgotten how to count, that's majority Riot. It's too easy for a duo to ruin the experience of 3 other players with the 4/1 ff system.

5 Comments

rujitraFeb 14, 20193 votes

You were not trapped, and the game was not lost until the nexus falls. A 45 minute game is not “trapping” you or holding you hostage or anything.

If you can’t agree to keep trying to win until the game actually ends, don’t play League. You’re being an asshole to others with your defeatist attitude.

Akali Is DeadFeb 14, 20194 votes

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You were not trapped, and the game was not lost until the nexus falls. A 45 minute game is not “trapping” you or holding you hostage or anything.

If you can’t agree to keep trying to win until the game actually ends, don’t play League. You’re being an asshole to others with your defeatist attitude.

No, other people are being assholes to me and others. 3 people wanted to leave that game. It was a 1/5 deficit at that point (11 kills to 49) and the enemy team had a ridiculous gold lead. NOBODY was having fun, people were flaming, the duo was intentionally feeding because it's what they find fun, they said so themselves. If three people want to leave, (SPAMMING the surrender vote) the game should be over.

You can keep your elitist attitude, but the game is meant to be FUN. If people are not having fun, the game is over. I was not playing ranked, in ranked I play only to win. In norms it doesn't matter, the whole point is either to learn and get better, or play to enjoy the game. 3 of 5 people were not enjoying the game because the other two were intentionally feeding. I don't mean they were bad, I mean they were intentionally throwing kills and flaming to piss the team off, because they didn't want to win. They were enjoying keeping us in that game, and the enemy team was having so much fun they didn't end 4 times because they wanted to keep killing us. We could not ff, the enemy team wouldn't end (even after they got baron and 3 inhibs) and the only reason the game DID eventually end was winions.

I don't give up winnable games, that game was not winnable. Me and two others WERE effectively trapped in that game because of a duo. When I suggested we open, they said "I don't want to get banned". They wanted out, but because riot is trigger happy and we COULDN'T ff, we were unable to leave.

So why don't you not be an asshole for no reason, eh?

NocturnalSheildFeb 15, 20192 votes

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You were not trapped, and the game was not lost until the nexus falls. A 45 minute game is not “trapping” you or holding you hostage or anything.

If you can’t agree to keep trying to win until the game actually ends, don’t play League. You’re being an asshole to others with your defeatist attitude.

Yea if it lasted 45 minutes they should of all been caught up in gold EASILY by then. Thats a successful turtle at that point.

Busty KunoichiFeb 15, 20192 votes

Regardless of whether the game was a drawn out loss or not, you are NEVER held hostage just because a surrender didn't happen. This means it doesn't matter if it was a duo party denying it or you're the only one who wants to give up.

Next, it requires a super majority of 70%. This means a normal majority of 60% will not pass and you need to deal with it.

Lastly, the instant you hit "accept game", you are agreeing to play the game out from beginning of champ select to a nexus blowing up at the end.

I'm sorry you don't like your games to be anything but one-sided stomps of 25 minutes or less. A 45 minute game is far from unheard of and was at one point the upper length of the average game.