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The Reason It is Impossible to get out of Low Ranking Divisions

Nøctμrne·3/3/2018, 8:19:17 PM·4 votes·824 views

I thought about this for a little bit, and I've come to the conclusion that Riot is still to blame for the cause of many players being stuck in low ranking divisions that they don't deserve.

The counterpart to this, is that Riot believes some players are deserving of a ranking higher than they should actually be given.

With good player's being given lower rankings then they deserve, and "bad" players given higher rankings then they deserve, it creates an endless cycle of snowballing losses caused by players who have a higher skill level going against the average player's and the player's put into the wrong division.

I have adopted the mindset that it's no longer the player's fault for being bad so to say, but Riot's fault for mismatching them in their division. This causes people to become stuck in these rankings as the player bases skill level is extremely skewed, and entering a match-making queue seems almost like gambling.

There is still the point that someone is bad, but can they still be blamed for being put into a division that doesn't match their skill level?

I see these discretion's far less in high divisions because player's had to work their asses off in order to get where they were (or just got pushed through by sheer luck) and the general skill level of player's is much more balanced than that of lower ranks.

Now I'm not necessarily sure if there is a solution, I just wanted to share my opinion on this with all the other players who are stuck in these divisions and get everyone else's take on the issue as well.

Edit: Exhibit A: https://imgur.com/a/YwCWI

Explain how I belong with these players. The logic of saying "If you can't climb out then you belong where you are" makes no sense whatsoever. So you're saying I should be able to win 1v5's and 1v4 ranked games when I have absolute feeders. I'm stuck in Gold, and the players clearly haven't been filtered out of this division. Note: Malphite's kills are due to me ganking him consistently. But how am I supposed to carry that, look at their KDA ratio's and how low their %'s are.

20 Comments

Ghengis Conor3/3/2018, 8:44:18 PM5 votes

If you can't escape your division it's because you belong there. Placement might not be perfect but outliers get filtered out after playing enough games. Plenty of bad team mates get carried into high divisions by having great players as friends. If you're a great player stuck in bronze you should be able to carry your team if they aren't just afk.

Silly Neeko3/3/2018, 9:08:37 PM1 votes

Seeing as for 3 seasons i was placed in bronze 4 and climbed back to mid, then high silver, and then to gold..... mostly solo.... as a support mostly.....

I think your logic is flawed as heck.

Yes team mates may feed, but if you are good, then you know when each power spike is, when each champion gets it, how the champion will most likely try to push that advantage, and have at least a few ideas of how to get ahead and win still. This is pretty much second nature for gold+. Plats and diamonds etc may argue with me about whether a game is over or not, but that is completely besides the point.

It is NOT Riot's fault you are in a lower rank. It is you. Seeing as Support a role that is heavily weighted to be needing the team to be doing good to win most of the time.... or at least you being able to force feed the kills down your ADCs throat with champions like Blitz and Thresh.... or you need to just baby the heck out of them with Soraka and Janna and Zilean because they are dense and dont know how to stay away from bushes with a Rengar and Khazix even when they were seen to have walked into it.... yeah.

SeductiveCelery3/3/2018, 9:10:01 PM1 votes

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I thought about this for a little bit, and I've come to the conclusion that Riot is still to blame for the cause of many players being stuck in low ranking divisions that they don't deserve.

The counterpart to this, is that Riot believes some players are deserving of a ranking higher than they should actually be given.

With good player's being given lower rankings then they deserve, and "bad" players given higher rankings then they deserve, it creates an endless cycle of snowballing losses caused by players who have a higher skill level going against the average player's and the player's put into the wrong division.

I have adopted the mindset that it's no longer the player's fault for being bad so to say, but Riot's fault for mismatching them in their division. This causes people to become stuck in these rankings as the player bases skill level is extremely skewed, and entering a match-making queue seems almost like gambling.

There is still the point that someone is bad, but can they still be blamed for being put into a division that doesn't match their skill level?

I see these discretion's far less in high divisions because player's had to work their asses off in order to get where they were (or just got pushed through by sheer luck) and the general skill level of player's is much more balanced than that of lower ranks.

Now I'm not necessarily sure if there is a solution, I just wanted to share my opinion on this with all the other players who are stuck in these divisions and get everyone else's take on the issue as well.

I climbed from bronze 5 to bronze 2 in 2 weeks. It's not impossible buddy, just play a juggernaut.

notFREEfood3/3/2018, 9:13:43 PM1 votes

You're in gold. You already have a better ranking than most players and if you tried playing in the depths of bronze you would see how much bullshit your theory is.

Unrefõrmed3/3/2018, 9:17:59 PM1 votes

I love seeing people try to rationalize their rank

I'm pretty sure Huni originally got placed in bronze, didn't he?

Cunky3/3/2018, 9:28:48 PM1 votes

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DOUBLE TAPPED E3/3/2018, 9:52:22 PM1 votes

I'd like to get a better handle on your mindset OP, so let's engage in a hypothetical:

Your team is down 10 kills at 10 minutes, you are even in KDA with your lane opponent, and slightly ahead on CS. You have a Nasus top, and the enemy is not pushing their lead as much as they could. Do you:

a) Flame your team, spam /ff on cooldown, and question mark ping everytime someone gets caught out? b) Say nothing, try to farm up as best you can and wait for the "inevitable" loss? c) Point out that the enemy isn't pushing their lead, and remind your team that if the game goes long enough, Nasus will carry? d) Alt-F4 and watch a Riven montage?

I would go with C, but I'm curious what your average response would be.

I am Pacman3/3/2018, 10:16:49 PM1 votes

Its because the difference in skill is much lower in higher ranks.

Think about all the different things you need to be good at in order to reach diamond. You have to be good at csing, roaming, knowing what objectives to go for and when, when to group with your team, how to ward properly, how to lane etc.

Everyone knows how to do all of these things competently in high elo. This means the game becomes more about which team can execute the necessary steps to win better.

In low elo on the other hand you could have gold players who are really good at roaming, warding and knowing when to go for objectives but they simply can't match up in laning yet and as a result are just gold. Or you could get people who dominate the laning phase but then don't know what to do after, continue to farm and eventually get caught out enough to lose the game. Or you could be good at almost all of them but you simply don't get consistently good cs and even if you get leads the enemy is never too far behind.

Then you stick 5 people like this together vs another 5 like this and you start to understand why low elo plays a very different game then high elo. You could get 4 people who all know what they are doing with objectives and as a result you stomp but you could just as easily get 2 that do and 2 that don't and your team is always split between what they should do and get caught out.

RedPannda3/4/2018, 1:06:48 AM1 votes

If gbay99 can get to D3 anyone can rank up if you try. It's all about having the right mental attitude and dedication to learning and improving over a long period of time.

Busty Demoness3/4/2018, 1:37:56 AM1 votes

You're not exactly wrong. The meta these days is a coin flip on which team can secure a 2 tower lead first. And that can be done so many ways there's no surefire answer.

This is exacerbated by the fact towers are utterly useless at assisting/protecting their protectors and it leads to towers having no defense.

ValyrianBlade3/4/2018, 3:07:00 AM1 votes

So you had 3 kills and 2 deaths, were playing jungler (so no threat of getting ganked and being in a 1v2, you're always in 2v1s so you should NEVER have a terrible KDA in a short game), and you suddenly think you're way better than these players?

Like what? This is basically the definition of a game where you got madly out-jungled. Wukong probably had early pressure and got fizz and bot Lane leads that they snowballed with, while you never got them back in it.

Like when I feel like this, I typically start a game 6/1 and just end up at 7/7 because the enemy team focuses me over a long game because I'm keeping my team in it...