Nubrac's ban isn't justified

Just Yuu and Mi·6/17/2019, 12:53:41 AM·13 votes·2,751 views

Playing teemo support mid isn't griefing.

Its off-meta, but off-meta isn't griefing when he has a 50% win rate while doing it.

And riot says that off-meta isn't bannable. You can play anivia jungle if you want to, you're not gonna win many games, but you can't get banned for it.

You're just wrong if you think otherwise. Yea it's pretty troll, but anivia jungle is pretty troll too and its not bannable. Riot supports off-meta as long as you are trying to win.

43 Comments

Jamaree6/17/2019, 1:13:49 AM9 votes

Playing off meta indeed isn't punishable, abandoning your ADC, playing how you want and demanding your allies play around your strats without telling them to, is.

JackMcCarry6/17/2019, 10:32:27 AM4 votes

This thread is such a shit show and shows why there is so much drama. OP is miss informed, he thinks that by banning teemo "support" Riot declares roaming bannable.

It's not, what nubrac did is not roam, without communicating or cooperating he forced himself mid from level 1 with no intention of going bot, forced his adc to 1v2, forced his midlaner to share XP and play around HIS aggression, despite everyone asking him to leave.

Going to a different lane permenantly isnt roaming; idk how you think this is an attack on roaming support.

When you got a designated role, you play that role, support's is assigned botlane unless THE TEAM agreed otherwise.

Just like you cant laneswap bot to top without having toplane agree to the swap, you cant force yourself onto mid, this has nothing to do with roaming.

Hawt6/17/2019, 10:01:17 AM2 votes

Support mid teemo is trolling or griefing. Support goes bottom not mid.

BrokenWíngs6/17/2019, 7:17:09 PM1 votes

Funny thing is,

I can see all of Nubrac's attorneys having his "strat" done to them while they're playing midlane, screaming in full caps @ allchat: "FAKING REPORT THIS KID I WISH [enter wishes about death and other delightful stuff here in ALLCAPS]"

Not much of a "cool unconventional new strat" when done to you now, on your ranked games, huh hipster boi? Now imagine having this done to you at Masters-Challenger where every single game is super important and determines a shitload of things.

Hypocrisy at its best. I'm disgusted.

ChaosReyn6/17/2019, 7:44:46 PM1 votes

The ban is just. Though I disagree with the underlying reasonwhy he was banned (cough, NB3, cough), I agree with the ban itself.

  1. His strategy strongly impacted his mid and bot, and he never once attempted to communicate with either of them. This is considered griefing - they aren't going to just know your strategy, and you're heavily impacting them while providing no game sense or reason for what you're doing, or any information concerning what you're attempting to accomplish.

  2. This is his strategy - yet despite all the games in which he tried it, he never once tried to adapt his strategy if it wasn't working, or if the two lanes that he was impacting were far more negatively impacted by his strategy than anyone else was gaining from it. This is considered griefing - you are not playing with your team, and you are actively ignoring them for the sake of your own distorted purpose.

  3. According to Riot, this behavior was by far more prevalent in games with high profile streamers, meaning that there's a high likelihood that he was attempting to force his strategy to work in those games with them, even if it was a "bad matchup" for his strat, so that it would show up on their streams for more attention. This isn't technically griefing on its own...but once there's an established pattern, it counts as griefing. And yes, considering there's a lot of money involved for those streamers, they have every right to be upset about it. Not NIGHTBLUE level of upset about it...but definitely upset.

inb4 "that 3rd one's made up, and how would he know the strat wont work?!" remember he's played hundreds of games with this strat...if he doesn't know by that point if something will work or not in a certain setup with that much data, then pardon me, but how the hell is he even challenger? Leaving the third point off the table doesn't change anything - the first two are more than enough over several games to have warranted the ban.