Riot Spyware discussion(possible virus?)

Puffleman28·1/2/2019, 4:20:44 PM·5 votes·3,273 views

This is clearly wrong, Riot is watching you without your permission(maybe it's in the terms of service?) and it technically has a payload since it crashes your game. Reminds me of the sonic gather battle thing. Honestly I don't trust Riot ever since they were back to back sexist and tried to justify the obvious sexism with further sexism. I personally will most likely delete the game unless riot addresses the issue of possible collecting and selling data and remove the spying that league currently does . Here's the definition of spyware for everyone"Spyware is software that aims to gather information about a person or organization, sometimes without their knowledge"

32 Comments

GreenKnight1/2/2019, 4:26:31 PM7 votes

That, like, 5th thread i'm responding to

People, it's not spyware, client doesn't gather information, it just reads processes. It's the anti-cheat system, one of the cheapest in existence. I don't know why Riot still uses it, but let's wait for a response, k?

And what the flying fuck does that have to do with sexism?

rujitra1/2/2019, 4:27:29 PM5 votes

No, they are not watching you. None of the data is recorded. Riot cannot see anything. It is a check run clientside (on your computer) and after it is run the data is deleted.

This is done by most major programs out there.

Hotarµ1/2/2019, 4:28:27 PM5 votes

This has been reported multiple times already.

All computer programs have the ability to check the processes on your task manager. I can't think of a program that doesn't have access to that information, so please stop calling it Spyware because I don't think it's that malicious.

Obviously if something comes out and someone can show the client is collecting our saved passwords or documents, then that's a huge problem. But that hasn't happened so I think we're all safe for right now.

Tundra Fizz1/2/2019, 8:17:10 PM3 votes

This is a perfectly normal and non-malicious thing for computer programs to do.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/psapi/enumerating-all-processes

While the method of "cheat detection" shown in the video may be very simplistic and extremely easy to bypass, most likely it was an early attempt to curb potential cheating when League just came out and Riot was still young as a company.

DrCyanide1/2/2019, 4:46:55 PM3 votes

You're blowing what's happening way out of proportion.

If Riot was watching you actively they'd crash in the client phase or after the 10-15 second mark, because they'd notice a new "cheat engine" starting up and instantly shut off. That doesn't happen because they're not actively monitoring anything. They're asking your OS "Hey, what processes are running right now, and what are they called?" when the game starts. Windows, MacOS, and Linux all have methods that programmers can call to get that information, because it can be very useful for tracking down unwanted interactions. Cheats are unwanted interactions.

Zéychin1/2/2019, 9:02:30 PM2 votes

Computer software being able to detect the names of executables running on a machine is a necessary utility for operating systems and many programs to work. There is no inter-process or networked information in League related to the processes running on your machine that is exposed to any parties who are not you.

I am a professional software engineer and I personally investigated this. This information is not shared or saved off and is only utilized as a rudimentary anti-cheat system.

See the Privacy Policy section below, which declares that you will be monitored to maintain competitive integrity:

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/privacy#how-info

as you agreed by signing the agreed to the EULA/TOS, here:

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse

If you would like to have an extended technical discussion on this, you can add me on League.

Kythers1/2/2019, 5:13:50 PM2 votes

this is like trying to stop bank robberies by adding a "no guns please" sign on the bank

afmghost1/2/2019, 5:34:03 PM2 votes

Well that's a stupid anti cheat method. I could call a cheat engine "cookies" and it would defeat the system, just because of the wording.

Puffleman281/2/2019, 4:48:29 PM1 votes

My response to most people posting, Clearly if this isnt the first post then people dont want it, it's ineffective and most consumers including myself feel riot may be doing a bit more.The sexism stuff was in relation to why riot isnt to be trusted, they're a dirty company and until they respond posts need to keep being made to address the situation.