"Rioter has feelings too we shouldn't criticize them"

LegendmakerGTX··8 votes·1,308 views

No, I hate people who kiss up to Riot constantly defending practice that they do which is horrible. This is a reply to the post where a player called gamers out for criticizing the "MF skin". Was it good? Yes but is the price for no hell no of course we are going to call them out.

This is the problem if you don't criticize a company for bad practices then they will think they are always in the right. Will they ignore feed back if we keep on talking bad about certain things? Look at the balance team then, these guys ignore feed back/ ignore the player base as a whole because they think they're smart. Damage is a all time high and will still continue to rise because certain players love to kiss their butt which makes them think they are actually doing a good job.

Don't use the example of Riot will ignore us if we keep on calling them out because they already did 4 years ago with balancing. I forgot to mention how bug the game is which makes me believe Riot is still a indie company.

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TwitchInMyPants5 votes

I mean as long as you aren't just hurling flame, I think its valid to complain about the game's issues. I think the reason you see the defense squad so ready is because you'll see shit like people saying "OMG TOO MUCH DAMAGE IN THE GAME, PYKE IS BROKEN, HOW ARE THE MONKEYS ON YOUR TEAM EVEN IN A JOB YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED" where there might be a single vague criticism of aspects of the game but its just a hate piece overall.

If you're complaining about how the game feels ruined for you and you have some strong words alongside good points, I think that's totally valid and deserves support. But yeah, I wouldn't beg for the game's death just because I disagree with the direction personally.

LegendmakerGTX3 votes

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I mean as long as you aren't just hurling flame, I think its valid to complain about the game's issues. I think the reason you see the defense squad so ready is because you'll see shit like people saying "OMG TOO MUCH DAMAGE IN THE GAME, PYKE IS BROKEN, HOW ARE THE MONKEYS ON YOUR TEAM EVEN IN A JOB YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED" where there might be a single vague criticism of aspects of the game but its just a hate piece overall.

If you're complaining about how the game feels ruined for you and you have some strong words alongside good points, I think that's totally valid and deserves support. But yeah, I wouldn't beg for the game's death just because I disagree with the direction personally.

I understand but people are fed up with incompetence by the balance team this also goes to the design team as well for overloading ever champion that comes out now. WAY WAY BACK everyone gave honest feed back about damage and there are still some post that complain about the damage and gives good feed back but does Rito listen to them? No, they don't they have never taken balance feed back seriously even though they always give players survey about the game.

Only time they actually take feed back in anything that relates to skins LOL.

WoonStruck2 votes

I would.

Riot's not taking the path of 'most enjoyment' they're taking the path of 'most money', which is exactly what happened when Maplestory catered to eastern audiences over western.

Fewer people play it than ever, yet they're making more money. In time, Riot's going to fall into the same rut that maplestory is in...except new player experience sucks, and eventually they'll drive away dedicated fans in favor of the greater profits made on new players. Once the game stops being as popular, this tactic will fail because nobody's going to encourage new players to keep playing and there's no incentive to CONTINUE spending, since the game fundamentally cannot go P2W like maplestory did.

Yeah, they're a business, but I'm of the opinion that in the field of entertainment, a quality product trumps making more money off a much less accessible product.

#The purpose of a game is enjoyment. The goal should be to optimize that, not optimize around spending habits of certain demographics. If you are successful, you are making a significant profit either way.

That's why most games are fucking trash now but developers are making more money than ever. Build hype for your game---> start crowdfunding after providing 'proof of concept', enable spending during your 'beta', or even both---> release---->quarter developer support-----> soak the money you can from it until it dies.


Alternatively, you can compare its path to SC2, which is hard to do since LoL is part of what killed SC2.

SC2 kept making balance changes to improve viewer experience, rather than player experience. Until after the game basically died, they pushed nothing but high APM death-ball builds (unless you're Protoss, then , just A-click your deathball), with the only exception being early-mid economic damage.

This basically ensured whoever got a slight lead early maintained that lead with the exception of a few checks and counters...but pro players tended to avoid things that were easily countered. Except Terran. They were forced to do a build that was potent but easily countered by the other races so everyone can PogChamp whoever won, whether they deserved it or not.

This made the game extremely binary in Terran match-ups except TvT, while Protoss was always binary except PvP, and Zerg was just the "sit and wait until late game" race unless it was ZvZ. Notice a pattern?

Riot has decided to make LoL binary for the sake of the viewer experience. If another game comes out that starts to compete with LoL's esports scene, LoL will surely die in the same sense that SC2 did.

It will live on, but at a massive decline from its original popularity.

TheUrbanKitsune5 votes

Criticism is necessary. Death threats and harassment are not. The whole 'Rioters have feelings' thing isn't a way of dismissing criticism, its a reminder to a toxic community that the people working at Riot are just human, and even if you don't like something they've produced you should treat them as a human.

LuveniaCainhurst3 votes

Sadly the community trying to tell this company what to do about the game falls on deaf ears. For example, everyone has complained about too much damage for 2 seasons.

And what did they do? More damage and a fffffun execute on Elder buff.

It would be nice if they listened to the overwhelming issues the community brings up at least, I just don't see it happening again this season.

LegendmakerGTX4 votes

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Sadly the community trying to tell this company what to do about the game falls on deaf ears. For example, everyone has complained about too much damage for 2 seasons.

And what did they do? More damage and a fffffun execute on Elder buff.

It would be nice if they listened to the overwhelming issues the community brings up at least, I just don't see it happening again this season.

That's why I hope this game dies to be honest just like Nexon games did with MapleStory/Combat Arm. If a company neglect the players and takes us for granted then they should fall.

Arakadia3 votes

"Riot has feelings" isn't said to dismiss any and all valid feedback. Its to discourage hounding employees, who often having nothing to do with the issue, and being rather merciless. Especially recently with some of the skins like Victorious Aatrox, they went to the twitters of the concept artist and other people who worked on the skin (I think the vfx artist?) and directly just spewed some really awfully mean shit.

FFS Rioters have said they began to hate or even quit their jobs because of community lashback getting to them.

xox BaByDoLL xox3 votes

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No, I hate people who kiss up to Riot constantly defending practice that they do which is horrible. This is a reply to the post where a player called gamers out for criticizing the "MF skin". Was it good? Yes but is the price for no hell no of course we are going to call them out.

This is the problem if you don't criticize a company for bad practices then they will think they are always in the right. Will they ignore feed back if we keep on talking bad about certain things? Look at the balance team then, these guys ignore feed back/ ignore the player base as a whole because they think they're smart. Damage is a all time high and will still continue to rise because certain players love to kiss their butt which makes them think they are actually doing a good job.

Don't use the example of Riot will ignore us if we keep on calling them out because they already did 4 years ago with balancing. I forgot to mention how bug the game is which makes me believe Riot is still a indie company.

There is constructive criticism, and then there's name calling with gross generalizations.

I think most people, including Riot and the Mods themselves, support constructive criticism. It's people who just want to hurl insults, start name-calling, and throw out gross generalizations at Rioters and Mods, that some of us don't support. Not only is the insults and name-calling childish, but it also doesn't result in change - such threads just get ignored, skipped, or even removed if the vitriol is bad enough. Behaving like an adult and providing constructive criticism could actually result in a thread being read and noticed, subsequently leading to some change.

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