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Soon enough Fortnite will see a decline, here's why

Martinokill··16 votes·11,663 views

As many may have noticed is that a lot of players of our beloved game have began to put more time into Fortnite than League. Frankly, I understand them. Fortnite is an excellent game that has little bugs and a development team that is constantly trying to introduce new weapons, skins and gamemodes into the game to keep it fresh. In addition the game is also one of the little games out there today that offers a stress free environment for the player. Unlike league and other battle royale games out there today, Fortnite offers a easy learning curve and a fast paced game. Players are able to hop in and out of a game inside of a minute.

Yet I do believe that Fortnite's strengths come with their weaknesses, making me believe that the inevitable decline of the game is coming, within months. Next to losing the support of the casual gamers, who never play a game for longer then a couple of months (look at Overwatch), I am convinced that hard core gamers will come back to LOL. Fortnite does not offer the same motivation league does, this in the form of a ranked system. As much as league is a great game, I am convinced that most of us are still around because one day they wanna hit Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond and perhaps even higher. It is our drive. A drive that Fortnite misses, and frankly will make the game seem repetitive.

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harmonium lumina10 votes

''Fortnite is an excellent game that has little bugs. '' Do you even play or have eyes or something?

shicky971 votes

[{quoted}](name=harmonium lumina,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-19T14:50:01.223+0000)

''Fortnite is an excellent game that has little bugs. '' Do you even play or have eyes or something?

Compared to PUBG it might as well be immaculate with regard to bugs.

wildfox991 votes

[{quoted}](name=harmonium lumina,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-19T14:50:01.223+0000)

''Fortnite is an excellent game that has little bugs. '' Do you even play or have eyes or something?

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Cynikul7 votes

Im surprised that you even had to ask this?

Of course it will.

Look at what happened to the other games that "were going to make league die" (the ones that topped league on twitch for like 4-6 weeks)

PubG Hearthstone Dota 2 Smite H1Z1

Wow, who would have thought new/different exciting games would beat a game (whether its colossal or not) for parts of a year?

T4underbolt1 votes

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Im surprised that you even had to ask this?

Of course it will.

Look at what happened to the other games that "were going to make league die" (the ones that topped league on twitch for like 4-6 weeks)

PubG Hearthstone Dota 2 Smite H1Z1

Wow, who would have thought new/different exciting games would beat a game (whether its colossal or not) for parts of a year?

League is dying for anyone who is serious about balanced and competitive game. Veteran players, streamers are starting to leave and having enough of this bullsht because riot does all in their mind to cather to casuals and noobs by simplifying and making it noob friendly. Literally giving them wins on a golden plate: look,click that champ when autofill as supp and spam.shield and you win the game, don't worry we won't nerf it because we want you to pay for to.when you will be pleased with freelo. And this is just one of many examples.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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League is dying for anyone who is serious about balanced and competitive game. Veteran players, streamers are starting to leave and having enough of this bullsht because riot does all in their mind to cather to casuals and noobs by simplifying and making it noob friendly. Literally giving them wins on a golden plate: look,click that champ when autofill as supp and spam.shield and you win the game, don't worry we won't nerf it because we want you to pay for to.when you will be pleased with freelo. And this is just one of many examples.

Meanwhile, Nightblue3....

KlydeFrog1 votes

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Im surprised that you even had to ask this?

Of course it will.

Look at what happened to the other games that "were going to make league die" (the ones that topped league on twitch for like 4-6 weeks)

PubG Hearthstone Dota 2 Smite H1Z1

Wow, who would have thought new/different exciting games would beat a game (whether its colossal or not) for parts of a year?

Smite and league are identical. Just that smite is third person unlike league. Same items same map

Cynikul1 votes

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Smite and league are identical. Just that smite is third person unlike league. Same items same map

O....Ok? Thanks for that..? I'm not sure what relevance you're attempting to point out, but thanks for the factoid!

[sg-lulu]

Hextech OwI1 votes

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Im surprised that you even had to ask this?

Of course it will.

Look at what happened to the other games that "were going to make league die" (the ones that topped league on twitch for like 4-6 weeks)

PubG Hearthstone Dota 2 Smite H1Z1

Wow, who would have thought new/different exciting games would beat a game (whether its colossal or not) for parts of a year?

Let's not forget Overwatch and Lawbreakers.

Quiet Dude7 votes

Fortnite is a fun game, but it reminds me of TF2: it has a low skill ceiling and no one really takes it seriously.

Fortnite is like Mario Kart. Fun, unpredictable, but it gets boring as hell after awhile.

Martinokill1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-19T15:23:19.248+0000)

Fortnite is a fun game, but it reminds me of TF2: it has a low skill ceiling and no one really takes it seriously.

Fortnite is like Mario Kart. Fun, unpredictable, but it gets boring as hell after awhile.

I completely agree. I guess that is why it has become so accesible for mainstream/casual gamers...

Vizulix1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-19T15:23:19.248+0000)

Fortnite is a fun game, but it reminds me of TF2: it has a low skill ceiling and no one really takes it seriously.

Fortnite is like Mario Kart. Fun, unpredictable, but it gets boring as hell after awhile.

Nah as a chap that plays TF2, I'd say Fortnite is extremely different. Also TF2 has a massive skill ceiling. The different forms of rocket jumping and trimping are not easy at all to master.

Risen291 votes

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Nah as a chap that plays TF2, I'd say Fortnite is extremely different. Also TF2 has a massive skill ceiling. The different forms of rocket jumping and trimping are not easy at all to master.

This is true.

People who claim games have low skill ceilings are usually bad players who just write off thier losses as a coin toss. We see these players do the same thing in league when they say its impossible to carry thier team.

FurriesAreHot1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-19T15:23:19.248+0000)

Fortnite is a fun game, but it reminds me of TF2: it has a low skill ceiling and no one really takes it seriously.

Fortnite is like Mario Kart. Fun, unpredictable, but it gets boring as hell after awhile.

I’m a competitive TF2 player, and I can say it’s skill ceiling isn’t low. It’s a casual game for sure, and very easy to get into and be dumb and have a good time. But the people who are very skilled are easy to spot in a pub for instance.

Risen291 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-19T15:23:19.248+0000)

Fortnite is a fun game, but it reminds me of TF2: it has a low skill ceiling and no one really takes it seriously.

Neace was saying that fortnight has an extremely high skill ceiling.

If that wasn't true then it wouldn't be possible for the best players to win half thier games with 100 people in each match. That doesnt happen by luck.

But I can see why you'd think that. When I watch the game it looks pretty simple. But its not.

Quiet Dude2 votes

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Neace was saying that fortnight has an extremely high skill ceiling.

If that wasn't true then it wouldn't be possible for the best players to win half thier games with 100 people in each match. That doesnt happen by luck.

But I can see why you'd think that. When I watch the game it looks pretty simple. But its not.

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Risen291 votes

You seem incredulous, but this betrays your lack of analytical intelligence. Mathematically it is impossible to consistently beat 100 other players, having a 50% winrate, unless there is a high skillcap to leverage against others. The same reason is why some people can achieve absurd winrates in pubg, which may have an even higher skill cap. If a game had no skill to leverage then its a dice roll and mathematically everyone would have a winrate of 1%. And mathematically a minor skill cap can't get you to 50% winrate because too many other people you'll face will also be able to achieve it and match you. Getting 50% winrate in a team game like TF2 is mathematically easy, as you have a 50% chance of winning each game if all things are equal. In fortnite, you have only a 1% chance of winning if all things are equal. In TF2 you dont even have to be the best player on the team to have a high chance of winning. In FN, you will be unlikely to ever win without being the best player in the match.

Tactical decision making. Strategic planning. Overall game knowledge level. Aiming skill. Inventory management. Combat building skill. The game is decided as much by how you build as how you shoot. There are both mechanical and tactical concerns.

Quiet Dude2 votes

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You seem incredulous, but this betrays your lack of analytical intelligence. Mathematically it is impossible to consistently beat 100 other players, having a 50% winrate, unless there is a high skillcap to leverage against others. The same reason is why some people can achieve absurd winrates in pubg, which may have an even higher skill cap. If a game had no skill to leverage then its a dice roll and mathematicall everyone would have a winrate of 1%.

But, going beyond the math, you find the following in fortnite: Tactical decision making. Strategic planning. Overwll game knowledge level. Aiming skill. Rapid building skill. The game is decided as much by how you build as how you shoot. There are both mechanical and tactical concerns.

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Risen291 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=00030003000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T17:51:31.205+0000)

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The look of someone who doesn't have the intelligence to undertand what is going on.

A fitting portrait for you to post.

Quiet Dude2 votes

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The look of someone who doesn't have the intelligence to undertand what is going on.

A fitting portrait for you to post.

Reddit.com/r/iamverysmart

Look I found a sub reddit dedicated to you. Tell me more about the “intelligence” required to play fortnite, because when I played it, it was the easiest shit in the world.

It was like Mario Party easy.

Risen291 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=0003000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T19:10:08.394+0000) Tell me more about the “intelligence” required to play fortnite, because when I played it, it was the easiest shit in the world.

It was like Mario Party easy.

"Easy to play" and "easy to win" are not synonyms.

Unless you easily achieved a 50% winrate over dozens or hundreds of games, you haven't proven anything.

Go ahead and try it. You won't be able to do it.

Others have done it, because they have reached a skill level you don't even know exists.

You're displaying the same mentality towards fortnite seen in bronze league players when they accuse the game of being a random coin flip like Mario party, impossible to climb out of, never realizing that the capability exists for them to win 80% of their bronze level games if they only had enough skill and game knowledge.

Quiet Dude2 votes

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"Easy to play" and "easy to win" are not synonyms.

Unless you easily achieved a 50% winrate over dozens or hundreds of games, you haven't proven anything.

Go ahead and try it. You won't be able to do it.

Others have done it, because they have reached a skill level you don't even know exists.

You're displaying the same mentality towards fortnite seen in bronze league players when they accuse the game of being a random coin flip like Mario party, impossible to climb out of, never realizing that the capability exists for them to win 80% of their bronze level games if they only had enough skill and game knowledge.

I’m saying it’s easy to play AND easy to win. I always make it a point to try and win 10 matches of any multiplayer game before I make a final, personal judgement. That’s always been a personal thing.

Did I play only ten games of fortnite? No, probably 25-35, I know I played a game a day for a month. Did I get in the top ten many times? Yes. Have I won ten times? Yes.

After that last game, I honestly felt no point to continue. But if it takes a lot of skill and brain power for you to win, and you find it rewarding, by all means, keep playing. I think it’s easy as shit and I honestly don’t see much value in it, even though it’s free.

Some people try and make a career out of mini golf, so hey, if you like fortnite, then enjoy. Even though I think it’s ezpz, you’re free to have your own opinion and judgement.

Now for your epic, college thesis reply, and don’t worry, I’m not petty enough to need the last word. You can have it. Defend fortnite’s honor, you shining white knight.

Risen291 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17Rnoj0J,comment-id=000300030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T19:49:24.909+0000)

Did I play only ten games of fortnite? No, probably 25-35, I know I played a game a day for a month. Did I get in the top ten many times? Yes. Have I won ten times? Yes.

Let's be generous and say you only played 40 matches. We can't be sure if you don't have accurate data.

So maybe you have a 25% winrate.

That's like reaching silver V in LoL and declaring you've seen all the game has to offer, that there's really nothing more to the skill ceiling.

The top player in fortnite has a 50% winrate.

The top players are of the opinion that fortnite has a very high skill ceiling - and if you can't even approach what they are doing then you have no basis to claim they are wrong.

Chermorg6 votes

Where’s your source for players leaving League for Fortnite, or even putting more time into it? Not that it matters for my response, as I actually agree with your analysis

League has been around for almost 10 years now, and during that time there’s been countless games that were going to “take over” and keep all of the players from League - and none of them ever have. Fortnite is no different - and you’re very right that it’s not going to last.

I will say, however, that Overwatch is actually decent like League - I play a lot of OW when I have time for a 10-20 minute game but not a 30+ minute League game (i.e. between classes/study breaks/etc)

Martinokill2 votes

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Where’s your source for players leaving League for Fortnite, or even putting more time into it? Not that it matters for my response, as I actually agree with your analysis

League has been around for almost 10 years now, and during that time there’s been countless games that were going to “take over” and keep all of the players from League - and none of them ever have. Fortnite is no different - and you’re very right that it’s not going to last.

I will say, however, that Overwatch is actually decent like League - I play a lot of OW when I have time for a 10-20 minute game but not a 30+ minute League game (i.e. between classes/study breaks/etc)

Not really much a source as observations. Twitch viewers per game for example.

Pandeonor1 votes

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Not really much a source as observations. Twitch viewers per game for example.

Exactly this numer stayed the same for League over the last 365 days.

So. No.

Ztoka3 votes

I wouldn't even say it is another game/games that is taking people from league. It is riots crap balance team making people leave the game. I have loved league for years and for the first time, it has been increasingly hard to have any desire to log on to play. Riot is FORCING people to find another means of entertainment because of this mess of a season.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

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I wouldn't even say it is another game/games that is taking people from league. It is riots crap balance team making people leave the game. I have loved league for years and for the first time, it has been increasingly hard to have any desire to log on to play. Riot is FORCING people to find another means of entertainment because of this mess of a season.

Show me a massive multiplayer game that doesn't have people complaining about balance all the time.

hhaavviikk3 votes

that ''ranked drive'' is highly subjective, I've been playing since 2009/2010 and for the last like 5 years I've just been playing ARAM where rank is completely irrelevant, there doesn't always needs to be a goal, dream or progression to a game, it can simply be played for it's fun value.

º Kindred º2 votes

The problem with Fortnite is just how RNG this game is. Who ever has more luck on getting the best weapons basically gets a hard lead until they meet up with the other few people who survived. Also Fortnite is really boring imo stuff only happens when you land or when you are one of the last 10 people alive or so. This game is literally walking for straight 10-15 mins or so with 3 mins of actual game content lol

Cavesloth2 votes

As crappy as Fornite is after awhile, I'd still rather play it than the garbage that league has become. Until they address the snowball issue (if they pull their heads out of their asses long enough to get enough oxygen to realize this is the number 1 problem with the game rn, losing confidence daily they ever will), I'd rather play literally anything else. League is just a pain simulator, and if you're into maso, keep enjoying it, its not for me.

Hirokikun2 votes

Or perhaps this game is garbage with Riot shitting on its player base every season?

IT3etlWEXJ2 votes

Your assessment is incorrect.

Blåbæret2 votes

Why THE HECK would anyone come back to League? Battle Royales get old real quick, but go back to League? Lehl. There is nothing to go back to; just a shadow of what was once a great game. There is no satisfaction in this game. People won't come back to league - they'll either quit gaming alltogether or find an actual good game. League atm is not a good game; it's literal garbage.

Colonel J2 votes

All those words just to say "Fortnite has no ranked system" ?

[sg-lux-2] [sg-lux-2] [sg-lux-2]

Darius Strada1 votes

Fortnite is like Pokemon GO. Really popular for while but will also die very quickly.

ZaneShadow1 votes

Eh, I don't think it will "fall" but probably reduce in how over the top popular it is. Most streamers that made the jump did so because league streaming is highly competitive while a new game like fortnight is less so. The game always includes new things so that youtubers and them can create new and interesting content meaning the viewer always has a new stimulus to the game. Playing it is easy and unlike League that has so many people who are way too competitive, there's no reason to be in Fortnight. Just sit back and relax each game. That feeling of just playing for enjoyment is what games are all about: being GAMES.

But you are right, Fortnight did have the initial huge influx of players. A lot are going to fall off. But many more will stick to the game and provide a large market for streamers who decide to stick around even when things become more competitive for views. I do believe some will return to their original games, whether it be Overwatch, League, or maybe even PUBG once things become competitive in the Fortnight buisness. When money is just as hard to come by there as it is in other places, some of the charm will likely fall off and they could split their time between games. That is honestly a healthier buisness model for a streamer since an individual games flux and fall and growth doesn't hurt their income as much.

So in other words, Money. Once money becomes harder to make for streamers, you'll see more shift to what will likely be their true resting place when it comes to their streaming scheduel. As a result, player base will likely shift with them.

Bael the Riser1 votes

The people who left means very little to me unless they're players I can advertise cheap heroine and cocaine to.

LordGeovanni1 votes

development team that is constantly trying to introduce new weapons, skins and gamemodes into the game to keep it fresh.

this is literally riot but they are too lazy to put any effort into getting it done quickly because they want to maintain an immage of a laid back company.

Fortnite offers a easy learning curve and a fast paced game.

If you want to win you play the only relevant class in the game and this also becomes true. League's difficulty is brought about by its large cast of characters so it takes long to learn everything because everything is very unlikely to show up but learning champions is easy learning the meta is easier and you can really consider yourself finished until you come up against something new after which you only need to watch their champion for a bit and play around it.

Destaice1 votes

Or maybe it's just time to accept that every so many years a different genre of games will blow up in popularity and replace the current most popular genre and that freaking out about changes literally nothing.

MMORPGs got replaced by MOBAs. MOBAs are getting replaced by Battle Royal. It's really not a bad thing. You can still play and enjoy MOBAs.

TempName748141 votes

god, i hope battle royales aren't the next moba. they're so mind numbingly boring to play and watch

Ztoka1 votes

Where did I say no other games have balance issues? I'm just making a statement that Riot is forcing people to find something more enjoyable... While other mmorpg's/mmo's have balance issues, when I played them, balance didn't seem to impact things as negatively as league. Balance issues never ruined a game for me like they have been ruining league..

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